<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> David, I use the methods Roger wrote about in an article in the Journal.  Can't give you specific issue.  I also went to one of his seminars. I hadn't noticed any problems until I suggested the use of steam to someone via this list.  One of the responses to my suggestion warned of the problems steam causes.  It seems Yamaha has had to replace sets of hammers because of over steaming.  I then began to notice the problems appearing on pianos steamed a few years earlier.  I'd check the archives for threads about all this. I always am very careful with the amount of steam I use.  Very little, and iron after.  Since I used very little steam and I am seeing a change I don't like in the long run, I've moved away from it. Tim Coates Wapin Company LLP   David Ilvedson wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid3E317A79.1664.24D47C@localhost"> <pre wrap="">I would like to hear how you do the steaming...is it similar to what Roger Jolly does? He apparently is having good luck with Yamaha verticals. Don't know about the grands though. You have to iron the hammers after you steam...I haven't actually tried yet...;- ]...needles David I. On 24 Jan 2003 at 19:02, Tim Coates wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I'd think twice about using steam. I have stopped using it unless it is a drastic situation. I have noticed that some of the pianos I steamed a few years ago sounded great for about a year. Now the bass notes are on the thuddy side. The resilience is gone from the hammers. I have started using a 2 ounce spray bottle with half water, half rubbing alcohol and 5 drops of unscented fabric softener. You spray on as much as you want and the results are instant. Try a little at a time to get a feel. Contrary to what Wim has said I feel this a much safer voicing tool. It works great on concert instruments when you want to take the edge of fast. Tim Coates Wapin Company LLP <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</a> wrote: List At the Modesto Junior College we recieved 6 Boston verticals. The 52 inch upright and the other style upright. I forget the model no.s. Any way I find the tone to be the typical tinny Asian sound which has really deteriorated over the first year. Practice room pianos you know. SOunds like a job for snuggle or maygbe super snuggle(grin). You'all discussed this before?. Have some had success making a musical instrument out of this slick piece of marketing. They sure seem stingy to me. Dale </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>