<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 11/4/04 1:09:07 PM Central Standard Time, jtanner@mozart.sc.edu writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2>They look to other universities to see what is being paid for similar <BR>posit= ions elsewhere, despite the fact that full time CAUT <BR>positions/incomes represent a fraction of one percent of all piano <BR>technicians nationwide.<BR><BR>I believe this economic affairs committee survey could = go a long way to <BR>assisting CAUTs with salary issues, IF the questions regar= ding income <BR>are worded in such a way to be able to provide accurate compari= son with <BR>private sector incomes.<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>This is where I think CAUT ought to make an impact. Universities a= re not going to look at the private sector to compare incomes. They are going t= o look at what other universities pay their piano technicians. (and then = take only the low end of the average). If we take a survey and find that the= average is only $30 - $35K, then that is all universities are going to pay. = On top of that, as Jeff pointed out, if piano tuners are lumped in with ot= her instrument repair technicians, who need only a high school education with minimal skills, and need to work under supervision, then it won't do anythin= g to elevate our profession. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I would like to see is for the guidelines to say that to be a= qualified CAUT, a piano tuner needs to have a college education, with a= minimum 10 years experience in tuning, rebuilding regulating, voicing, etc.,= and perhaps throw in something about being an RPT in the PTG. And to get someone= with this kind of experience and education, it will take $40 - $50K per year= . </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It's going to take a while, but if we put it in writing, and keep sendi= ng out the guidelines, hopefully in another 10 -15 years, music schools will start to catch up, and the average will be in the 40 - 50 = (or the equivalent).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wim  </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>