<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C3A07D.3DF79DE0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> Ditto what Dave said. I really like = the <st1:PersonName>Verituner</st1:PersonName>. Jim Coleman’s class on ETD’s is great if you haven’t taken = it. The bottom line seems to be; any one of the 4 can do whatever you want = IF you know how to use them and IF you use your aural skills. I’ve used = all but Tunelab. If you’re into computers and really = high tech stuff, try Cybertuner. If you’ve used SAT 1 you’ll like = the III. It’s a workhorse. I recharge mine once a month, and I love = the DOB feature. AND you can still tweek the numbers. I’ve tuned several = pianos with the <st1:PersonName>Verituner<= /font></st1:PersonName> and had the SAT side by side, and I can say that they = agreed on the first tuning (<st1:PersonName>Verituner<= /font></st1:PersonName> takes in partials on the first tuning) but on the = 2nd tuning the <st1:PersonName>Verituner<= /font></st1:PersonName> tweeked the tuning the way I would have by ear. (Mostly. I = still check and change some things with the = <st1:PersonName>Verituner</st1:PersonName>. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I know a technician in = <st1:State><st1:place>Cal.</st1:place></st1:State> that swears he can tune with a Stobocon and make it work! = (Maybe he can, maybe he can’t…)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <st1:PersonName>Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> BYU<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of David Love Sent: Saturday, November = 01, 2003 11:38 AM To: College and = University Technicians Subject: RE: = ETD's <o:p> </o:p> <div> I've used the SAT = III and the Verituner (which I now use and prefer).  The Verituner, IMO, = delivers a better no brainer tuning, nice pitch raise function, good data = storage, and finds any note you play.  The only down side is that it's bigger, = heavier and the battery life is shorter 8 hours).  I carry the charger/adapter with me.  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div> David = Love<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.n= et</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> ----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From:</span= > <a href="mailto:dforman@rider.edu" title="dforman@rider.edu">Dave = Forman</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: = <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" = title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent:</span= > 11/1/2003 9:00:39 AM <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject:</s= pan> = ETD's<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> Caut,<o:p></o:p></fon= t> I’m considering = buying a new tuner, and I’m looking for advice. I’m looking at the SAT, Cybertuner, and Verituner. What are your experiences with these, which = do you prefer, and why. I‘ve used an SAT I for 12 years, and I’m = wondering if the newer devices do give a better = tuning.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p></fo= nt> Dave = Forman<o:p></o:p> Westminster Choir College = of <st1:place>Rider = <st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType>= </st1:place><o:p></o:p></p= > </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>