KUANG wrote: I think loose pin problems could be avoided. I believe pin holes wear out because of unnecessary forces excerted by the pin holes (don't they only wear as result of years of tunings?). This has certainly not been my experience. I frequently see pianos with loose tuning pins that may not have been tuned 10 times in 50 years. The biggest factor I see contributing to loose pins is the natural drying out of the wood pin block and the resultant shrinkage of the wood. The next biggest factor (on the Texas gulf coast) is delamination of the pin block. Remember, most older pianos have maple blocks laminated with animal hyde glue. This organic form of glue is succeptable to attack by bacteria. After a while, the bacteria eat enough glue to allow the block to begin to come apart. When that happens, the block can no longer grip the pin. If you only apply force ( _not_ torque), then the pin hole wall must apply an opposite force unless your pin is not stationary (here comes Newton's law of mechanics). However, if you apply a _torque_, then the pin hole wall wouldn't have to oppose any force at all (well, except some friction). A very good definition of force and torque. I submit to you, however, that there is a great and constant force applied to the wall of the hole - somewhere between 150 lbs (high treble on a low tension scale) to approaching 300 lbs (low bass on a high tension scale) - the force applied by the wire itself. The tuner must exert enough force on the pin to overcome the force of the string before the torque can be applied. If you constantly apply forces only on a pin, then the diameter of the hole at the top is going to increase (the diameter at the bottom probably won't change at all). This is true, however, those forces WILL be applied as long as there are 240 strings pulled up to pitch. I am not discounting the damage than can be done by a careless tuner. We have all seen that. It's just that tuning stability is virtually as important as tuning accuracy. There are many more factors involved than just turning a pin in a hole. The pin must be "set" in such a way that will minimize movement due to the environment, and the string tension must be equalized across its termination points. Just a little more food for thought. Danny Moore Houston Chapter
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