At 01:10 PM 4/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >Steve, > >You wrote: > > >> My own suspicion is that there may be more expanding and >>contracting than just the bridge or bridge cap. How about the soundboard? >>Does it crown up enough in high humidity to produce this effect, or at >>least contribute to it? Would that help explain why I notice the effect >>more in the mid-treble than anywhere else? >> > > >The answers here are yes, and yes. > >And I'm not sure why none of us have made an issue of this aspect before. > >Thanks. > >Horace > > Sure the soundboard is a factor. It accounts for the major portion of noted= pitch raising and lowering with humidity swings. I don't see, however, how= the rising soundboard, increasing downbearing (wrong direction), could in= any way push strings up bridge pins. The bridge swelling in that same high= humidity period, however, would. Here's a good place to make the= observation that the combined effect of the rising soundboard adding= downbearing, and the bridge swelling and forcing the string up the pins= puts much more pressure on the bridge surface than either alone would. The= higher string tension from the rising soundboard increases the sidebearing= force on the bridge pins and makes it more difficult for the bridge to= elevate the strings. That's double the wood crush for the money. The two= humidity reactions (board/bridge) are inseparable in practice, but the= board isn't what lifts the string on the pins. It's the bridge. All the= lifting action takes place in the area between the bottom of the bridge= pin, and the top of the bridge. The rising board pitch increase masks the= swelling bridge (increased stagger) increase or someone would have brought= this whole thing up a long time ago. As to why it happens more in the mid-treble, I have a few more ideas. First,= that's the area with the least downbearing (usually). Regardless of what= the manufacturer intended, that's what I find in practice. This might be= that it's the most likely spot to find the soundboard flat, generating the= retched noises that makes me take readings in the first place. This may/not= be a factor. Second, the string section between the rear bridge pin and the= aliquot, or hitch, is closer to being the same length as the speaking= length in the mid-treble as anywhere else in the piano. The downbearing= forces are more balanced. The shorter the moment arm, the faster the= bearing angle changes with bridge elevation. In the bass and low tenor, the= bearing angle changes on the back of the bridge much more than on the front= with a humidity cycle. Maybe this (and more vibrating string mass) pulls= and jiggles the string back down on the bridge as it dries and shrinks. In= octave 5 1/2 - 6, the forces fore and aft are more evenly split, and the= string mass is considerably less. I think string mass probably has more to= do with it than anything else. Thoughts? Ron Nossaman
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