Hi, David I didn't mean to imply that I never charge for pitch raises, or that I don't encourage regular tunings, though I doubt all of us would agree about how many cents constitutes a pitch raise. What I was saying is that (for me) two passes are not particularly laborious, and give me a good feel for how the piano behaves. I use two passes for all but about 15% of my tuning, three or more for heavy pitch raises (75-100+ cents). Susan ----------------------------------------------------------- >I still think a pitch raise IS extra work which should be paid >for and it is incentive for regular service! > >David ilvedson, RPT >Pacifica, CA > > >> Hello, Jim -- >> >> I also do two passes, most of the time, not quite so quickly as you do. (The >> whole tuning takes me more like 90 minutes.) The first pass just isn't a big >> deal, and it shows me how the piano reacts to change in the different areas. >> >> I stopped considering a pass to be a big fuss when I was a student at George >> Brown College. Ted Sambell demonstrated pitch raising on an upright he had >> set about 100 cents low, and did a pass, getting it to pitch, in 5 minutes >> (timed), no muting, just pulled it up by brute strength and awkwardness >> (NOT!!). >> >> After that, complaining about or charging for an extra pass seemed like >> whining ... not that mine take 5 minutes! I think the secret is that one >> doesn't ask for perfection the first time around. Zipppppp, Whizzzzz, etc. >> >> Regards, >> >> Susan >> >> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& >> At 08:13 AM 9/1/97 -0400, Jim wrote: >> >List; >> > Watching the thread on tuning/pitch raises - + 2 cents, 4 cents, or whatever >> >within reason, has me wondering about the general system used by the majority >> >of those on the list. >> > When I tune I always go over the scale twice. Once to get it ready to tune >> >and the second time to tune it. Total time, 45 minutes to an hour, or >> >slightly more. >> > This enables me to find the problem spots and concentrate on them during >> >the second pass. Any 'slight' (0-6 cents) pitch discrepancy is taken care of >> >during the first pass, or if I decided to leave the thing where it is at I >> >will concentrate on other areas of the tuning. >> > Using this method has served me well and I was wondering if it is in line >> >with what other techs do. I don't think this has been discussed before, or >> >if it has I have missed it. >> >Just wondering. >> > Jim Bryant (FL) >> > >> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Susan Kline P.O. Box 1651 Philomath, OR 97370 skline@proaxis.com "As long as you have your feet on the ground, your head is perfectly safe in the clouds." -- Ashleigh Brilliant
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