List, Well, as so often happens, threads on the list can intertwine, combine, and otherwise get a little kinky. As an update to the "not quite factory" thread that generated an education for many (like ME!), I've got the following info from the owner of the recording studio: Turns out that the KG's 'regular' tuner got back to town, and returned the owner's messages. The tuner told the owner that, back when he (the tuner) worked for the KG store, it was their custom to install the bizzare little spring-o-matic soundboard savior on EVERY new Kawai grand that arrived in our little corner of cactus and rock. Said that it was to prevent loss of power due to the extreme dryness. Huh? Oh well, now the owner is satisfied that the "insta-bearing" thingy (as per D.ilvedson) was standard issue, and therefore his un-voiced, under-maintained, RECORDING studio grand must be just hunky-dorey. You can't educate everyone. Now, this whole thing kinda ties in a little with the "tech/dealer " thread in a couple of ways. Before I opened up my retail operation, I just did service/restoration. (in a BIG way) We had nothing but trouble with the KG dealer when it came to customer concerns or complaints. If we called the dealer about a condition that needed to be fixed, the dealer would not authorize us to do the repair and get paid. He (the dealer) would always tell the customer that they would have to have HIS tech come and do the work, if it was really needed. The factory, of course, would say the same. In other words, the dealer would de-edify OUR capabilities, no matter what. This is where a lot of the current thread is right on, as in Ed Footes' comment: " Never, Never, Never compromise your relationship with the customer !! Your long term job security rests with a clientele that trusts you to look out for their best interests, not with simplifying a dealer life by keeping quiet about bad work. Your job is to make sure the customer is aware of their piano's needs. If that doesn't sit well with the store, then it is a store/customer thing, but tough! Maintain your integrity, standards, and prices. Everything else will sort itself out around that." It's so true, that sometimes it's up to the customer to get re-imbursed, not us.(the outside tech) In some cases, I would tell the customer that they were the only ones that could get anything out of the dealer, and that tack always seemed to work. The dealer, who IS responsible in most cases, is much more likely to try to satisfy the buyer than the tech. So charge for your work, and let the customer carry the note, so to speak. Now that "I are the dealer, yup-yup", I better understand the workings of manufacturer warranty liabilities. Some are good, some aren't. A lot depends on how you approach the factory rep.(if you can find him) I've had a major manufacturer EXCHANGE a couple of pianos for stuff that only the customer disliked, (not true mechanical/integrity type problems), but haven't even tried to get paid or reimbursed for certain problems that may have added a couple of hours to the prep time, or even involved hours of repair. Most of that really is up to the dealer,as per the agreement the dealer signed with the builder, and by informing the manufacturer in a timely fashion the dealer can help the builder track down the problem 'on the line'. My service biz is more than two of us can handle, and retail is, uh, not always real satisfactory. Retail is more vulnerable that the residual-type ongoing service base. Market influences and all that crap. BUT......providing a better grade piano, recital facilities, and community music related support is worth the trade-off of having to put up with the vagaries of retail trade. I think. Ask me again in a month or two. Anyway, I think a major point to be made about tech/dealer relationships is that there is NO need to "throw stones" at the dealer or his tech, when talking to the consumer. None. There is always a tactful way to suggest that the piano could use improvement, and who pays is not the true priority. You charge for your services, and in doing so establish your value. I told the recording studio owner to check with his regular guy, and he did, and he was very well snookered into believing that there was nothing wrong. What was my response when he informed me of this?........."Amazing. Let me know if there's any way I can be of help in the future." Sorry this rambled on so long, back to work. Guy Guy Nichols, RPT nicho@lascruces.com "Irreversibility is the mechanism that brings order from chaos" Prigogine
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