Do you mean what I think you mean on "the turning of pages"? James Grebe R.P.T. of the P.T.G. from St. Louis pianoman@inlink.com "I'm on my way towards the mighty light of knowledge". ---------- > From: Jim Coleman, Sr. <pianotoo@IMAP2.ASU.EDU> > To: atonal@planet.eon.net > Cc: pianotech@ptg.org > Subject: Re: Digitals-- and sound modelling > Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 10:10 PM > > > Today I had a chance to hear a demo CD which is put out by the Sweetwater > Sound company. They had the most wonderfully accurate reproductions of piano > sounds. They could even incorporate the sound of the soundboard itself and > the sound of softer surface hammers etc. They had examples from YC concert > Grands, S&S D's, Baldwins, Imperial B., Yamaha C3's and C7's etc. The sound > was the most realistic I have ever heard. apparently these sound tracks can > be loaded into a Kurzwild. Even the clumping sound of the dampers could be > included along with pedal noise if preferred. The turning of pages was also > included if desired. > > Jim Coleman, Sr. > > > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 atonal@planet.eon.net wrote: > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:51:05 -0700 > > > To: pianotech@ptg.org > > > From: John Musselwhite <musselj@cadvision.com> > > > Subject: Re: Digitals-- > > > Reply-to: pianotech@ptg.org > > > > > > > > At 10:20 AM 2/15/98 -0500, Stephen wrote: > > > > > > >To clarify here, when I talk of the next generation these will not be > > > >"digital". With "physical modelling" the input/output response itself is > > > >modelled. Particular waveforms are not linked to particular input > > > >combinations (interpreted from key motion). No matter how many of these > > > > > > This is what Sound Blaster is attempting to do with the Advanced Wave > > > Effects (AWE) system they're using in the SB64 AWE and other cards. The > > > technology uses what they call "sound fonts" that sit in RAM (4 megs of > > > it!). The piano sound is still a little weak, but it's miles ahead of what > > > it was on earlier sound cards. > > > > > > > With all due respect to SoundBlaster and the sound font system (I own > > an AWE32), Stephen is correct when he states that this technique > > still depends on pre-existing samples, and is not a directly > > triggered waveform response. The Damper Physical Modelling and > > Natural String Resonance trademarks of General Music that I mentioned > > in an earlier post is also dependent on pre-existing samples, but > > they use post-processing techniques to bring these samples into play > > when different keys and combinations thereof are struck, simulating > > the responses inherent in a string-bridge-soundboard tone generation > > system. > > As of yet, no one manufacturer has embraced physical modelling as a > > complete tone generation source, they are all dependent on refining > > sampling techniques to a point where the average listener can't > > distinguish a piece played on a digital and on a piano (blindfolded, > > in the dark, and not playing the instrument). Some are quite good. > > The Roland KR series digitals have a respectable grand piano > > sound sample coupled with a powerful amplification system, > > resulting in a realistic piano tone reproduction. According > > to the dealer I work for, the new KR-1070 digital grand from > > Roland is housed in a 5'8" grand case, and among other toys, > > you get the choice of Steinway & Sons D (NY) sampled grand > > sound, or with the flick of a button, Bosendorfer 290 sampled > > sound. However, they don't address the damper-soundboard-string > > modelling in the General Music digitals, and the difference is > > noticeable. Also, the General Instrument RP series have a > > rudimentary aftertouch 'bump' built into the keys, which the Rolands, > > Korgs, and I believe, Yamahas don't. It doesn't give the pianist the > > control over repetition and dynamics that pianos offer, but it's a > > start. > > It seems that there is a different market for digitals over pianos, > > and this is not a bad thing. Church groups really go for the > > digitals, as they are portable, can be hooked through a sound system, > > and servicing is minimal. Before you protest, think of the number of > > poorly serviced, inadequate, downright pathetic pianos you have tuned > > in churches that really don't have the money to adequately maintain a > > respectable piano. Ah, but that's a different post............... > > > > Still tuning those pianos & lovin' them, > > > > > > > > > > Rob Kiddell, > > Registered Piano Technician, PTG > > atonal@planet.eon.net > >
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