What would you do?

[Roy Ulrich]

Thank you. That firms it up. Actually, I have contributed to this "public
forum" when it appeared that an informative reply  would not be redundantly
answered by a dozen others.

Guess I was unaware that your dues supported this list in any way.

Since I have been involved to some degree, I'll take you final remark as
meaining I _do_ have some validity.

To all the rest of you who responded so professionally, THANK YOU. I may
need to reconsider actually sending a check.

Roy Ulrich


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Jolly <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: December 01, 1999 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: What would you do?


>Roy,
>       Respectfully, if you will not pay dues to the organization, what
>gives you a right to raise your voice on a policy issue.
>You are quite content to take a free ride on our dues, to gain knowledge
>from the list, and we are happy to reach out to many techs, to help in any
>way we can, hopefully this will make many think of joining.
>You contribute nothing by sitting on the side line,
>I am an associate  member for my own reasons, but have been treated with
>respect by all members.  I have learned a great deal from this
>organization, but most important, is that I will be an apprentice in this
>business to the very end.
>I am very happy to pay my dues, and share my humble amount of knowledge, as
>I know that I get much more in return.
>Have the gut's to get involved, then your comments may have some validity.
>
>Respectfully
>R. Jolly
>
>
>
>At 07:16 PM 01/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>There. That's precisely one of the main reasons I have no intention of
>>becoming a member of the PTG. What have you got to hide? Do you really
have
>>to have "political" discussions behind closed doors, for "members only" in
>>an attempt to veil inadaquacies that rear their ugly heads from time to
>>time? Those of you who have jumped through the hoops and earned the right
to
>>display initials behind your signature, congrats - most sincere congrats.
>>BUT, when I read posts from "RPT's" that don't know the difference between
>>the need for doping from Dampp Chaser I suggest the "title" does not
>>necessarily make one and expert.  I run a very busy and profitable
business
>>with the only credentials beign the word-of-mouth recommendations I
>>(thankfully) get from my customers. At times I get the impression that
even
>>though your FAQ states that this forum is open to virtually everyone, I
>>suggest there are a couple of you that  balk at a name without the RPT
>>designation following the signature. This is NOT a shot at anyone who has
>>taken the time and energy to obtain a certificate of approval from "The
>>Guild", rather, a request for open debate amoung those of us who have
>>dedicated our lives to making pianos as good as we can via tuning, repair,
>>or restoration. If there is bandwidth for chit chat and poetry from
Iceland
>>etc., what the hell is the problem with debate on another regulatory
>>suggestion in this world. Or, as a non-member of "The Guild", does my
>>opinion have no validity? If that's the case I'll gracefully unsubscribe.
>>
>>Roy Ulrich
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ginacarter <ginacarter@email.msn.com>
>>To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>Date: December 01, 1999 6:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: What would you do?
>>
>>
>>>Guys,
>>>
>>>May I respectfully point out that you are having a political debate
>>>regarding PTG that might be better served on the PTG forum designed for
>>such
>>>debates, ptg-l, rather than on this forum designed more for technical
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>Gina
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Richard Brekne <richardb@c2i.net>
>>>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 2:01 PM
>>>Subject: Re: What would you do?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Roger Jolly
>Saskatoon, Canada.
>306-665-0213
>Fax 652-0505