Two Loose Pins

[PAT A RALPH]

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Ken Gerler

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe & Penny Goss <imatunr@primenet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>; <JPIESIK@arinc.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Two Loose Pins


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe & Penny Goss <imatunr@primenet.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Two Loose Pins
>
>
> > Hi John,
> > You might consider the following if you do not want to use wood shims,
> sand
> > paper or any other method that requires the removal of the tuning tin
etc.
> > Using the thinnest CA and a fresh bottle for sure, treat both pins and
> pull
> > the string that is least accessable up to pitch and treat with
> > a drop of accelarator. Next pull the other string up as quickly as you
can
> > and use the drop of activator on that pin.
> > The reason for this is that in working with overly loose pins if you do
> need
> > to use another repair hopefully it will be the pin that you can get to
> > easiest.
> > Be prepaired to treat more than once as in moving the pin will cause the
> pin
> > torque to loosen.
> > When the pin stands at pitch, treat a last time and add no activator!
> > If you tune this piano again be prepaired to tap the pin to loosen it
> prior
> > to tuning
> > Joe Goss
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Piesik, John (JPIESIK) <JPIESIK@arinc.com>
> > To: Pianotech Post Msg (E-mail) <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 8:23 AM
> > Subject: Two Loose Pins
> >
> >
> > > This involves a 4 foot 8 inch, no-name grand PSO, 1920s vintage,
> fair-poor
> > > condition, nice refinishing job, crummy design.
> > >
> > > About half a dozen tuning pins are barely holding tension at A440, 2
> pins
> > > aren't holding at all, and the rest are marginally holding pitch.
> > >
> > > The 2 pins, right in the center of the keyboard, are the subject of
this
> > > email. The way the plate/block was drilled has these 2 worst offending
> > pins
> > > about 1/16 of an inch from each other! One of the pins string exits in
a
> > > serpentine fashion around the other pin, over its string at the bottom
> of
> > > the coil, around another pin, and finally on to the hitch pin at the
> back
> > of
> > > the plate - absolutely unbelievable! Turning either of these 2 pins
> > affects
> > > the other! Needless to say, these are the 2 pins that won't hold pitch
> (I
> > > wonder if they ever did for any length of time). No room to drive them
> > down,
> > > either.
> > >
> > > I really don't want to mess with this PSO, but the poor lady paid
$1.5K
> > for
> > > it (without having it inspected first, but she liked the finish), is
> > having
> > > a Christmas party on the 18th (and she calls for service only weeks
> > before),
> > > and, of course, her "aunt Elisa from Vienna who plays for the
symphony"
> > will
> > > be there, and she wants the piano to be just right for the party!!
She's
> > > already out her $1500 purchase, $125 for my time during the first
> service
> > > call, and whatever my charge would be to go back (if I do). Note that
> she
> > > was desperate from the beginning, and still is.
> > >
> > > My question is: Is there *anything* I can (or should) do to get just
the
> 2
> > > worst offending tuning pins to hold for a week or two? That's all she
> > wants.
> > > Does super glue work on pins that aren't holding tension at all?
Should
> I
> > > send her on to the yellow pages with my best wishes? I know I can't
win
> on
> > > this one. I didn't discover that the thing was completely untunable
> until
> > > about two hours into the service call, after I'd made significant
action
> > > repairs - partly my fault for not finding out it was untunable before
it
> > was
> > > too late. Should I send her a full or partial refund and write it off
as
> a
> > > loss?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions??
> > >
> > > Very Appreciatively,
> > >
> > > John Piesik, RPT
> > > Piesik's Piano Service
> > > Oceanside, CA
> > > (760) 726-4665
> > > jpiesik@arinc.com
> > >
> > > P.S. Please respond directly to me as I'm not currently subscribed to
> the
> > > pianotech list. Thanks!
> > >
> >
> >
>