It was meant tongue in cheek. I don't expect techs to voice every piano before they voice and I understand that a piano should be tuned before voiced. My point was only that I learned the effects of voicing on high partials and that it effects the inharmonicity of a piano. If I have a high level tuning to do or not, I now know and better understand that just turning tuning pins is not my only weapon in the war on U.N.(undesireable noise).I think I got Roger's message. I must be more careful how I say things... -----Original Message----- From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf Of JIMRPT@AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 3:32 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: RE: Convention musings In a message dated 7/27/1999 1:23:24 PM, Lance wrote: <<so voice before you tune.>> Lance; This is really the wrong message to get from Rogers class, in my opinion. Of course it may also be a chicken and egg question. :-) I don't know how to voice a hammer to A440, or 442, and I don't know anyone else who does either though..........so I must be in excellent company. But in my view the 'pitch'/'temperament' is the standard setter not the condition of the hammer thingee. Of course when we voice, using whatever method, we are changing the strings reaction to the hammer strike and it is through minipulation of the hammer/felt that we acheive the desired result and not by changing pitch/temperament on the piano. While it is possible to do a "rough" pre voicing on a set of hammers it is, in my opinion, impossible to do a good final voicing unless the piano is in as good a condition tuning wise as is possible.........all things being taken into account. Now as a disclaimer.............if the "voice before tuning" was a tongue in cheek remark......disregard my comments above :-) Jim Bryant (FL)
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