Bill, Thank you. That's what I wanted, and no, you haven't explained this to the list before. You are describing an incompetently tuned ET, in forty thousand words or less, which you chose to use as an example of what aural tuners produce, as ammunition to condemn ET altogether. Interesting circular reasoning. It's nicely self contained. Does this then mean that ETDs are purchased primarily because the tuner is incapable of tuning an acceptable temperament without one? That would seem to be the implication here, and I expect we'll hear from an ETD user or two about that. Did the purchase of your ETD coincide - roughly - with your own revelation that you had been tuning Reverse Well? If you had attained RPT status prior to the purchase of your first ETD, that isn't likely. Just curious. By my count, you seem to be making a very big issue out of what is little more than inadequate performance among a segment of the tuning population. These same people would be incompetent at tuning any historical temperament you might ask of them, except that it might not be as obvious given the wide range of acceptable permutations. It's not the temperaments that you are griping about at all, it's the incompetent tuners. It's about time we got that straight. Why not, then, expend a little of that energy toward trying to upgrade the basic tuning skills of the general technical populous instead of claiming universal persecution by a group that has been far more patient with you than even minimal civility should require. Any dog on the planet would have gotten kicked by now for much less. Once we get the entire tuning community up to speed and dispense with this Reverse Well crap, then we can get on with the higher education in the historical temperaments. So why *is* "Reverse" capitalized? Ron
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