In a message dated 3/18/00 9:28:09 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pneely@thegrid.net writes: << List What do you use to shim with , is their a special method? I have a Kincaid console and a wurlitzeer baby grand that you can put a business card between the plate flange and the pinblock. Pat Neely >> On the Kincaid, there is no flange between the pin block and the plate, at least not one that you can see. What you are probably referring to is that the plate is separating from the pin block on top of the piano. In that case, take out the plate screws, drill all the way through to the pin block and back board, and put in stove bolts. If the gap is small enough for only a business card, then all you need to do is put in the bolts to keep the gap from getting worse. If gap is bigger than that, you will need to release the tension of all the strings, pull the gap with C-clamps before tightening the bolts. You then have to retune the piano. On a Kincaid, however, I don't know it is worth it. For the Wurlitzer grand, you have to reduce the tension before driving maple shims up between the flange and the plate. Wim
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