Yamaha tuning problem

jim krentzel jim_shari@ruralnet1.com
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:41:21 -0600


Hi Dave,
If both pianos have the same problem in the same area of the scale, you
might look elsewhere.  Would there be a ceiling fan running?
Jim Krentzel

At 10:14 AM 11/10/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I ran into a problem that I don't remember hearing.  It's got me stumped.
I'll include some details in hope I can get a good answer.
>
>I tuned two Yamahas for a customer in her teaching studio.  One piano was a
Model U-11 Ser # T 121496 and the other a G3 Ser # 1098046.  The grand had
two pedals and a data plate on the inside of the case so I am assuming it
was mfg. in Japan.  I did not attempt to tune them together as I know the
scale is different and the client wasn't interested.  Both pianos had the
same problem.  
>
>Neither piano had been tuned in two years and the client tried to convince
me that it was a "new thing" that piano manufacturers had "just" started
recommending a piano be tuned every six months.  Amazingly the lady was
blessed/cursed with an uncanny ear that could pick out every false beat and
nuance.  She called my attention to the low bass in each piano. Neither
piano sounded right.
>
>I did all the checks and all beats were correct. The octaves just didn't
sound right on the on the first 6 or 7 notes.  I figured I would just tune
them as clean octaves, but I could not get the lower notes in line. The
partials were beating so fast either way, the notes sounded horrid with the
rest of the piano.
>
>Is there a possibility the scaling is off?  Tapping down the strings
doesn't help, twisting either.  There is a bit of rust on the grand, but the
other is clean.  I'm kind of at my wits end.  Am I missing anything? 
>
>Mark Wisner, you told me you read all the Yamaha stuff on Pianotech, would
you care to comment?
>
>Thanks, 
>
>Dave Streit
>Portland, OR 
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><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I&nbsp;ran into a problem that I don't remember 
>hearing.&nbsp; It's got me stumped.  I'll include some details in hope I
can get 
>a good answer.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tuned two Yamahas for a 
>customer in her teaching studio.&nbsp; </FONT>One piano was a Model U-11
Ser # T 
>121496 and the other a G3 Ser # 1098046.&nbsp; The grand had two pedals and a 
>data plate on the inside of the case so I am assuming it was mfg. in 
>Japan.&nbsp; I did not attempt to tune them together as I know the scale is 
>different and the client wasn't interested.&nbsp; Both pianos had the same 
>problem.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neither piano had been tuned in two years and the 
>client tried to convince me that it was a "new thing" that piano manufacturers 
>had "just" started recommending a piano be tuned every six months.&nbsp; 
>Amazingly the lady was blessed/cursed with an uncanny ear that could pick out 
>every false beat and nuance.&nbsp; She called my attention to the low bass in 
>each piano. Neither piano sounded right.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did all the checks and all beats were correct. 
>The octaves just didn't sound right on the on the first 6 or 7 notes.&nbsp; I 
>figured I would just tune them as clean octaves, but I could not get the lower 
>notes in line. The partials were beating so fast either way, the notes sounded 
>horrid with the rest of the piano.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there a possibility the scaling is off?&nbsp; 
>Tapping down the strings doesn't help, twisting either.&nbsp; There is a
bit of 
>rust on the grand, but the other is clean.&nbsp; I'm kind of at my wits 
>end.&nbsp; Am I missing anything?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark Wisner, you told me you read all the Yamaha 
>stuff on&nbsp;Pianotech, would you care to comment?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, </FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Streit</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Portland, OR</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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