Jasper American Piano

[Kevin E. Ramsey RPT]

Kristinn; Thanks for your post. I've tried everything on these. Sometimes,
if you take your brass rod (used for seating strings) and put pressure on
the bridge pin, the beat stops. I've even tried tapping them in a little
further, didn't seem to work. I believe that some of the falseness on a
Kimball is because the bearing bar is often flat, instead of being a nice
rounded surface, but of course, you can't take off the strings and re-shape
it unless you're re-stringing the piano.
    I once sat through a three hour class which promised to address the
issue, only to find that the instructor didn't really have anything
practical to offer about curing this problem. Sometimes the best I can do on
a really false piano (At least in the extreme treble) is to tune each string
to the machine, and then listen to see if it sounds better. Sometimes the
machine even gets confused, but most of the time it's better than I could do
without the help. (especially when it's my sixth piano of the day.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristinn Leifsson" <istuner@islandia.is>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jasper American Piano


> Hi Kevin
>
> It´s not so much learning as finding out by discovering by trying it out
on
> a few yukkie ones, and then comparing the same experiment on a not so
> yukkie one.
>
> It´s really quite simple.  I don´t use an ETD so I don´t have any
> numbers.  But, here goes, this even sounds stupid, but just tune the note
> until it sounds the best you can do with it.  Do you think that perhaps
> you´ve even been doing beat elimination all along, but not realized or
> something?  All it does is really substitute one sound wave for
> another.  You eliminate one beat, but get another one, not as obscene as
> the other.  That´s all.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kristinn
>
>
>
> At 21:15 26.11.2000 -0800, you wrote:
> >If I could only learn the "false beat elimination" part of that, on one
of
> >these beasts, I would sign up today. But I think that that is endemic to
> >these pianos, and I've never been truly successful with them. However,
I'm
> >anxious to learn.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <mailto:baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>Roger Jolly
> >>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org
> >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:42 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Jasper American Piano
> >>>** Again, go beyond the normal to see what happens. I'm not even
> >>>seriously pushing for a class in maxing-out a Kimball console.
> >>
> >>Hey Terry, why not????? Sounds like a good idea.
> >>Two Kimball's or Betsy Ross spinets, Both slightly out of tune, one
> >>tuning only the other voicing, string/hammer mating, hammer shaping, and
> >>false beat elimination only.
> >>Let a Jury of piano players be the Judge, of the end musical results.
> >>I think there could be some suprising results, and some VERY sprited
> >>debate afterwards.
> >>Sounds like fun, if every one would keep an open mind.
> >>
> >>Now the cat is among the pigeons.
> >>Roger
> >>>It just sounded like an idea with some potential benefits, so I said
so.
> >>
> >>
> >>Roger Jolly
> >>Saskatoon, Canada.
> >>306-665-0213
> >>Fax 652-0505
>