SV: Clean unisons

[Linda Stråhle]

.Jim,
I totally agree with you ,

you wrote:
 'WE' need to remember that what we listen to as tuners does not needfully 
relate
to what musicians hear when they play. Perceptions differ widely and 
preferences are formed based on exposure. 

-Tomorrow I will tune the piano again but then  I don´t have much time to work with. But next time again I will sit down and just experiment with it.

I don't know if it is possible for me to do a little off unisons ( moral headache etc.) But maybee I try to change the tuning a little bit, or do it different from what it is now.

Linda Stråhle
SWEDEN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <JIMRPT@AOL.COM>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Clean unisons


> 
> In a message dated 10/04/2000 6:01:50 PM, Linda wrote:
> 
> <<"I had a fun complaint on a tuning today, that it was too clean.">>
> 
> Linda;
> Notes can't be "too clean". 
> But "clean" notes can be very lifeless.
> A unison which is very very slightly off, perhaps on just one string, will 
> have more presence and sustain than one which is 'dead on'. Played one note 
> at a time this should be no problem but if the combinations of notes, as in a 
> chord, are all 'dead on' than the overall perception of the chord will 
> likewise be more Lifeless than a chord where all the notes were not 'dead on' 
> but just a tiny-tiny bit out.
> 
>  'WE' need to remember that what we listen to as tuners does not needfully 
> relate
> to what musicians hear when they play. Perceptions differ widely and 
> preferences are formed based on exposure. Witness the revival of HTs, semi 
> Hts, and pseudo HTs as well as the altering of ET, on a selective basis, 
> which are all becoming more 'normal' than just a few years ago.  
> 
>  Is this "too clean" a problem? not usually...unless you run into someone who 
> objects to the "too clean" sound. This is similar to the problem of a 
> customer who has not had their piano tuned in a looooong time and then when 
> it is tuned complains that "it just doesn't sound right". :-(
> 
>  Your customer is right, but so are you and you are to be congratulated for 
> getting a piano tuned so well that the complaint is 
> of the "cleaness" (sic) of the tuning! :-) Put a litttttle hemi-semi quaver 
> in some of the notes in question, satisfy your customer, yourself and 
> remember that this technique, used judiciously, can be used to add presence 
> to some future "dead" notes.........
> Jim Bryant (FL)