Manufacturer University Deals

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:05:30 -0400


I'll tell ya anyway. :-(

I was a victim  :-(  (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr) before I got into this
profession.

It made me so mad I went out and learned how to fix 'em.

My brand new Steinway provided ample opportunity to "figure out what is
causing this problem". For instance "Hmmmmm, it says here in this book about
piano design that soundboards are crowned slightly convex toward the
strings. I wonder why my soundboard is crowned 1/4" CONCAVE toward the
strings. Maybe this is what they mean by 'Diaphramatic'?"

I am not stupid. My wife is a VERY intelligent woman. We had wanted to buy a
piano for a couple of years. We decided we would buy a USED piano for UNDER
$1,000. We bought a NEW 1098, after all the helpful guidance from those hard
working volunteers (uh, ha) helping us (yea, right) at the university sale
(amazing, isn't it - kinda makes one want to cry). We both had the complete
impression that the %&$#ing woman that sold us our "superior investment" at
such a "once-in-a-lifetime bargain price" was a volunteer piano teacher from
the university (turns out she worked for a Steinway dealer in Tennessee and
made her commission on our purchase) and that our piano was an extra from
the university that was never delivered (turns out that Steinway NY actually
owned it and it had been all over the country to various "university
sales").

Again, from the Steinway Web Page under Technical Info:

"We urge you to adhere to the following recommendations which will help you
minimize wear and tear and help you keep your piano in optimum condition.

Don't position it in the path of an air conditioning outlet or a heating
outlet.

Don't put it near an evaporator cooler or a room humidifier.

Don't put it close to an uninsulated outside wall.

If you think of yourself rooted to any of these spots and subjected to the
changes of temperature and humidity thereabouts, you will be able to imagine
what a piano in the same location would have to endure. Pianos placed in
such locations cannot be expected to stay in tune and keep their adjustment.
More important, the instrument subjected to such environmental insult may be
permanently damaged.

Ideally, your Steinway piano should reside in a temperate atmosphere where
relative humidity ranges from 45% to 50%. If this is not possible remember
that the idea is to keep environmental factors within a fairly narrow
range."

Did ya read that: DON'T subject your Steinway to changes in temperature and
humidity because it "may be permanently damaged". I wonder if the Steinway
folks conducting/coordinating the Steinway "University Sale" read it. My
piano sat in a semi trailer in the parking lot of the University of South
Florida Music Department for ONE FULL WEEK IN JULY IN FLORIDA THROUGH MANY
THUNDERSTORMS AND BURNING HOT SUN. (Just think for one minute what the
temperature and humidity was like inside the trailer!) Could this have been
related to my pinblock cracking and pulling away from the piano back
frame???

It seems apparent to me that some (or many) of the pianos at these sales are
rejects or slow movers from around the country - maybe some returns from
disgruntled customers??? - that have been moved and banged all around the
country, stored in damaging environments, and generally mistreated.

Oh, boy. I'm going to stop here before I get myself in trouble.

Wow. I thought I had gotten over all that. I guess not. I can still feel
myself start to shake with anger. This helps though. Thanks for asking about
University Sales. If you have any other questions on this topic, don't
hesitate to ask. I would be happy to share my thoughts.   :-)

And here I be, with thanks in no small part to Steinway.

P.S. My 1098 (which I traded in for a Boston grand a couple years ago) still
sits at the Steinway dealer with a price tag on it of $16,300 and a big
heavy box sitting on top of it (the box has wood samples with various
finishes for a customer to view optional finishes when selecting a new
piano). I move the box most months when we have our chapter meeting there (I
move it over to one of the other dozen studio-sized new pianos surrounding
my 1098). The next month the box is back on top of my old piece of %&$#
1098. I wonder why. Could it be related to the pinblock/frame separation???
Ahhhh, nothing but world-class, investment-grade, fine instruments. Oh boy,
there I go again.

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: Manufacturer University Deals


>
>
> Farrell wrote:
>
> > Where do I begin. I do not have one positive thought about these RIP-OFF
> > "events". Two weeks ago we even had a "special sale from the Aspen Music
> > Festival" at our local Steinway dealer. I ask how is a dealer going to
move
> > hundreds of pianos from the store/warehouse or whereever to the
university,
> > tune them, pay extra sales people (yea, I know, you thought they were
> > university music teachers volunteering their time - they let you believe
> > that), rent the space ,etc. AND sell the pianos at a price lower than
that
> > available at the store where they were already sitting, tuned, etc.?
Answer:
> > They don't. They Rip People Off. I think I will stop writing now before
I
> > punch my computer.
> >
> > Don't ask me how I know all this.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> > Piano Tuning & Service
> > Tampa, Florida
> > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
>
> I certainly know the kind of event you are talking about Terry... tho I
suppose
> I wouldnt be quite as strong in my attack on such sales methods. Still...
I just
> keep thinking what all this kinda thing says about the state of affairs in
our
> industry.. sheesh... And some techs wonder why some other techs just
"wanna tune
> Steinways"... to put a point on it.
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Wimblees@AOL.COM>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Manufacturer University Deals
> >
> > > In a message dated 10/16/00 10:27:28 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
> > cedel@supernet.com
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > << Friends,
> > >
> > >  I'd like more information on these university sales.  They are
advertised
> > > here
> > >  from time to time as a way to save lots of bucks buying a piano that
is
> > used
> > > only
> > >  one year.  I've always considered them suspect.  Would some of you
like
> > to
> > >  educate me?  Thanks.
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >  Clyde Hollinger
> > >   >>
> >



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