Farrell... The reason it goes sharp is that you didn't approach unison from above pitch....thus leaving some torque in the pin. Just my opinion. Dick MT ----- Original Message ----- From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:45 AM Subject: Re: tuning question > I know what the problem is! You are tuning too fast. You pitch raised > (major, HA! - that was a world record!) a piano 600 cents and fine tuned it > in just under two hours? You gotta be bionic. Are you for rent? > > On a more serious note, is there a typo here? If not, please shed some light > on your technique. (I am being serious here.) I am still in the > under-1,000-piano-tuning-experience catagory and am always trying to > increase my speed. Do you have a special technique, or just LOTS of > practice? > > Even more to the point, yes, I have noticed the one string sharp thing also. > I use the Accu-Tuner and tune my unisons as I go. Therefore (on an upright) > I tune the center string, the right string (bottom pin) and finally the left > string (top pin). When I am done tuning and I go back just to double check > my unisons carefully, the norm is to find a few (well, maybe a bunch) of > right strings (bottom pin) just a tad (as opposed to a tish - but that just > may be my inexperience) sharper than the other two. I figured I was the only > one able to do that - so my assumption has always been that I was bumbling. > Thanks, I feel better now. I'm going to practice to get from a tad to only a > tish sharp though! > > Very interesting question. Being that I am very consistent with this, I have > indeed wondered whether the cause went beyond my special talents. In my case > the sharp string is not the last one tuned as Dale spoke of. Anyone with an > answer? How about something funny from Ron - this might be good material? > > Terry Farrell > Piano Tuning & Service > Tampa, Florida > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Mercier" <jaymercier@hotmail.com> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:38 PM > Subject: tuning question > > > > List, > > > > I notice lately that when I perform a major pitch raise (today, it was one > > that was 3 whole steps flat), by the time I'm done with the fine tuning > just > > under 2 hours later the unisons in the mid to upper treble range go out > just > > a tish, and about 90% of the problem is that the bottom pin (upright) is > > always just a tish sharp compared to the other two pins of the unison. > > Almost always I have to go back and lower every bottom pin to match the > > remaining two unisons. Can this be avoided? Any thoughts on this is > > appreciated. > > > > Jay Mercier > > New Associate Member > > Glenwood, MN > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > Dale wrote: > > Jay, > First, congratulations on becoming a new member! Hope to meet you in person > in Reno at the Annual Convention. > I have pondered this problem for some time. My mentor, Jimmy Gold, thought > that it was because that was the last pin he tuned, it did not get settled > as well as the other two. I have tried a variety of muting/tuning schemes > which have led me to believe there may be some validity in his thesis. If > this is not the last string you tune it obviously does not apply. > I do find it harder to set the bottom pin on an upright primarily because it > is more difficult for me to get the short length of string between the > tuning pin and the pressure bar to render. > If you figure this one out, please let me know! > Best, > Dale > Dale Probst, RPT > Member, TEAM20001 > PTG Annual Convention > Reno, NV --July 11-15, 2000 > email: wardprobst@cst.net > (940)691-3682 voice > (940) 691-6843 fax > TEAM2001 website: http://www.equaltemperament.com/PTG/ > > > > > >
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