HT Experiences

[Joe & Penny Goss]

HUMMMM,
I submit that the only instruments of the orchestra that routinely play out
of tune are the percussion and piano.
The percussion becuase they come tuned from the factory and are not
changeable.
And the piano which when tuned is perfectly  ( if Possible ) out of tune
with the rest of the orchestra.  <G>
Joe Goss
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: HT Experiences


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>
> << Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:57:27 +0200
>  From: "Ola Andersson" <pianola@online.no>
>  Subject: SV: HT Experience
>
>  > Dear List,
>  >
>  > Ric Moody has urged me to post this to the
List--..........................
>
>  > Whaddaya think?  Bounced that ball right back out into the middle of
the
>  > court!
>  >
>  I agree
>
>  I think a symfoni orchestra is stribing for playing perfectly pure, but I
> don't think they know what they are doing,
>  They do it by ear. I beleave the French Horn players is the most educated
> about this doing all the modulations of Wagner without sounding out of
tune.
> String players can hide in the group and use one tenth of a second to find
> the right pitch together with alot vibrato.
>
>  Do we have a French Horn player on the list that can give a comment. I've
> heard French Horn players disguess about
>  "this note is a major third and this one is a fith" and then they play
them
> pure and not in ET. When a composer (de)compose the notes are stuck on a
> piano or computer but when a French Horn player plays he might change the
> intonation in a modulation even if he plays the same note. One of my first
> big experience with piano tuning was I can play chords very low in the
bass
> if I tune the chord pure (No vibrato), That is what a French Horn section
do.
>
>  Nowadays we can hear people singing perfectly in ET. You sometimes can
hear
> this streched vibrating fourth in a country ballad. Then we know the
singers
> have been singing thrue a computer who have "tuned" the voices.
>      Paul Simon don't do that.
>
>
>
>  Back on track
>
>  Ola Andersson
>  Bergen Norway
>   >>
>
> Thank you, Ola--a most interesting post.  I think you are correct that the
> players don't think too much about it, they just do it.  But I do think
they
> are aware of the situation, especially those with considerable experience.
> Yes, horn players especially (see a book on the subject by Chris Leuba,
> formerly of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Minnesota Orchestra), but
> don't leave us trombonists out, either.....we tune that way routinely!
>
> I confess I hadn't thought of the computer manipulation of
less-than-perfect
> singers.......but I'm sure you are correct.  What a depressing situation!
>
> Stan Ryberg
>