In a message dated 10/26/00 10:23:57 AM Central Daylight Time, drwoodwind@hotmail.com (Ron Koval)writes: << Ok, ladies and gents, let’s see if I can shed some light here…. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! Ron! I couldn't have done nearly as well at explaining this and apparently I haven't. I do have to apologize to Conrad on this because I always assumed he knew exactly what I meant by Reverse Well. To me, it is a self-explanatory term, but I guess not to most people. I would only argue one point and that is that sometimes, some tuners do tune a temperament that is wildly or blatently irregular and unequal. Once, in Louisiana, I was asked to tune a Yamaha console for which the last tuner (a highly respected RPT) had attempted the ET with pure 5ths. Sadly, the attempt ended up being a really exaggerated RW. If this tech had *known* about HT's and cycle of 5ths temperaments, I'm sure he would not have left the piano that way and would have retained the customer that I now have had for several years. Here is an alternative way to listen to temperament. Owen Jorgensen says that it is not a valid way to listen to a temperament but when he told me that once at a Convention, I responded, "You just wait and see if *they* all don't do exactly what you think they shouldn't do!" Today's tuners are trained to listen to 3rds chromatically to test for evenness. So, the first thing they do is listen to an HT that way and usually freak out at what they hear. In my instructions for the EBVT, I include the following description of the way 3rds will sound. It will generally apply to most HT's. <<The following is the way the 3rds played chromatically will sound from F3-F4. Just imagine all values inverted and you have Reverse Well. F3-A3: slow F#3-A#3: fast G3-B3: slow Ab3-C4: quite fast A3-C#4: moderate, about the same as ET Bb-D4: moderate B3-D#4: very fast C4-E4: slow, half the speed of ET C#4-F4: very fast>> So, to spell it out, when I listen to detect an RW, I expect and often do hear this: F3-A3: fast, the kind of sound you would associate with getting out of bed on the wrong side, cutting yourself while shaving, drinking sour orange juice and cold coffee with rancid cream in it. F#3-A#3: slow and gentle, an antedote for the above. Enough reason to call in sick and go back to bed or go fishing and enjoy the beautiful day. G3-B3: fast (see F3-A3) Ab3-C4: moderate, sometimes nearly pure A3-C#4: usually moderate but could be almost anything Bb-D4: usually pretty fast B3-D#4: the sweetest, most gentle beating you have ever heard, too bad hardly anything is ever written in this key. C4-E4: the shrillest, fastest, most sour sound in the entire universe. The kind of sound that would drive anyone with any sensitivity to music right out of the room. Most people just learn to ignore it and this is the reason why pianists learn not to listen and why most people claim that they don't know the difference whether a piano is in tune or not. C#4-F4: the sweetest, most gentle beating you have ever heard, sometimes pure, a good reason to "jump into" 5 flats or to modulate up that 1/2 step to end the music in a more harmonious key. (Isn't "Body and Soul" in this key?) Believe it and FILE it! Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin
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