I would be very interested Del. Thanks for offering. I am also trying hard to get to NC next month to take your new class. I hope I can make it work out. Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Too Much Crown? > > Terry, > > I'm going to guess that this soundboard might have been made using crowned > ribs. (Yes, there were some enlightened builders in 1890 [or so]). If you > have this kind of crown with this many cracks and other soundboard damage > there must be some kind of curve machined into those ribs. If so, you're in > luck. You should be able to put the board back together and come up with > some type of soundboard acoustical system that will work. > > (By the way, I'm writing an article that relates to this subject. It's not > finished yet, but if you are not too far along with your project you might > be interested. Let me know.) > > Del > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: September 11, 2000 2:40 PM > Subject: Too Much Crown? > > > > Help! I just tore down a 1890 (or so) Estey 4' 10" grand. the other day. > It > > is actually a VERY heavily built piano - lots of framing. It is > > full-featured - four sections, agraffes & capo. > > > > Anyway, the problem. The soundboard is totally trashed. It is really > cracked > > and the edges between planks are warped up where they have separated from. > I > > have been drying the soundboard for about a week with a damp-chaser rod > > underneath and sheets on top (real nice in there - about 95 degrees and > 30% > > relative humidity). I was routing out four or five of the 8 or 10 MAJOR > > cracks when B-O-I-N-G, the tenor end of the treble bridge springs up and > > just about sent me through the roof. The bridge end came up with a big > chunk > > of soundboard so that now there is a 1/4-inch gap between the soundboard > and > > ribs at the tenor end of the treble bridge (soundboard is cracked both > sides > > of bridge). IT'S HUGE. > > > > I stared at it for a while trying to figure it out. Got a string and a > > straight edge out. Under the soundboard with the string measuring > > perpendicular to soundboard grain and parallel with ribs, there is about > 1/4 > > inch of crown in board (not really a crown, but rather a "V" with the apex > > under the treble bridge). Put the straight edge parallel with and adjacent > > to the treble bridge and WOW there is a whopping 11/16" of crown parallel > to > > the soundboard grain and perpendicular to the ribs. If you sight down the > > treble bridge, it is fairly straight. It would appear that this is why the > > bridge end sprung up. > > > > I guess my question is if I bend the &$%#*@ out of the bridge, block the > > ribs up (hey, we can put even more crown in this puppy!) and glue the > > ribs/soundboard/bridge sandwich back together what might I have? Will it > > likely stay together? Will this do something really wierd to the > instrument > > sound? > > > > Before you pros tell me what needs to be done, I know (new board, bridges, > > etc.). That will not happen for about 10,000 reasons no one want to hear > > about. Either I will fix what is there, or I will have to tell the owner > > that it cannot be fixed (the owner is capable of understanding zero - I > have > > tried in the past - she says "well, just do the best you can"). A large > part > > of what is bugging me is that I really don't want to have my finger prints > > of this one, but I am in too deep now. :-( > > > > Terry Farrell > > Piano Tuning & Service > > Tampa, Florida > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > >
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