In a message dated 9/21/00 8:34:17 AM Central Daylight Time, Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no (Richard Brekne) writes: << Hi folks.. Dinking around the other day I noticed a nice sounding chord that resulted from tuning completely "wrong"...grin. I had started my usual A3-A4 temperament and got as far as F# and this was really flat to begin with. So flat that the A-F# 6th was beating at about 2 beats per second. Playing A-D-F#-A(4) yeilded then a "D Major" that was really pretty to listen to indeed. >> Thanks, Richard, While there is a lot more to it than this, you have discovered the essence. You just can't get the same experience tuning by numbers. A couple of weeks ago, someone wrote about how extreme a 1/6 Comma Meantone sounded when put on a piano. I have some news for that person, a 1/6 Comma Meantone does not in any way match the description of what was written. It is, in fact, a fairly mild temperament, excellent for Mozart and Beethoven, a bit much for Chopin, yes, but not to the degree that was written. Once, someone who has developed an elaborate electronic tuning method asked me if a certain figure was correct for 1/4 Comma Meantone. The figure he had was -10 cents rather than +10 cents. The same person told me that he had no way of knowing the difference nor any understanding of it. The primary danger in using these kinds of methods for tuning HT's is programming error. Secondly, to rely only on sets of figures does not give the tuner any experience in what the effects of a temperament are supposed to be. It would be easy, for example, for someone to write about a 1/6 Comma Meantone when actually, a 1/4 Comma had been tuned. There is a really big difference but to someone who merely dials in the numbers, there is apt to be not much more than confusion or bewilderment, especially if an undetected error in programming was made. I've said it before and I'll say it again, tuning by the numbers is the easiest way for an ET tuner to "discover" that any HT sounds "wrong" and to go running back forever to the "safety" of ET. Too bad that the "ET" that is being embraced really isn't ET, it probably is a backwards version of what might be a really good temperament if that person only took the time and effort to really learn and understand what temperament and octave tuning can be. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin
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