Beat Cancelers was alternative temperaments

[Kevin E. Ramsey]

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    OK, Bill. You'll have to give a dummy like me a clue. Temperaments =
are one thing. Octave stretch is another. Jim Sr. said that you had done =
"something" to your octaves, and that he liked it. What did you do? I =
have found that the amount of stretch is a matter of taste; what sounds =
pleasing to one tuner sounds noisy to another. So in the interest of =
continuing education ( that holiest of grails which we are always on a =
crusade for) clue me in. Please?


Kevin E. Ramsey
ramsey@extremezone.com=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Billbrpt@AOL.COM=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Beat Cancelers was alternative temperaments


  In a message dated 4/7/01 5:39:56 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
  rbrekne@broadpark.no (Richard Brekne) writes:=20



    You know Bill,,, I am begginning to understand that this is a bit =
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    important then I origionally thought some months ago when I first =
heard you=20
    talk about beat cancelling effects other then in unisons.=20


  You bet it is, Richard and you will not find out anything about it in =
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  book on piano tuning, any course about piano tuning or in any class at =
the=20
  PTG Annual Convention.  Now, how often does anyone *really* come up =
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  anything *new* concerning tuning that is of any importance?  I'll just =
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  on doing what I do until a few more people catch on to it and confirm =
the=20
  extraordinary effects.=20

  I'll tell you about one person who did notice this effect way back in =
it's=20
  earliest days.  It was none other than Jim Coleman, Sr RPT.  After =
hearing a=20
  Baldwin SD-10 tuned in the EBVT with tempered octaves at the PTG =
Annual=20
  Convention in Milwaukee, 1993, he, at his age, literally bounded up to =
me at=20
  the conclusion of the recital.  His words were, "You've done =
*something* with=20
  the octaves.  I don't know what it is but I *really* like it!"  =
Subsequent=20
  meetings where it was compared with the very best of ET tuners, Virgil =
Smith=20
  RPT demonstrated a *significant* difference which had undeniable =
appeal.  =20
  There is a good reason for me *not* to enter into any more tuning=20
  "competitions":  I'd win them hands down each time against ET.=20

  The truth is that it is so simple as to be *mindless* and it can be=20
  duplicated and verified by an ETD but not through the smooth, =
calculated=20
  curve methods proposed by all of those program designers.  You just =
have to=20
  make the effort to learn what I have learned to do by putting together =
the=20
  teachings of several of PTG's best technicians, including but not =
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  Coleman, Smith and Jorgensen.=20

  Go for it.=20

  Bill Bremmer RPT=20
  Madison, Wisconsin=20

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