----- Original Message ----- From: "jstuart1" <jstuart1@pdq.net> To: "pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: August 06, 2001 1:27 AM Subject: Question about tuning pins and strings > While tuning a couple of the pianos I have, I noticed that some of the > strings in the trebble unisons touch thier neighbors in the vicinity of > the tuning pins. After further investigation, this seems to be the case > on all 6 of the pianos I have. I am curious as to why. It appears that > the tuning pins were set to close together in this area. How does this > affect sound and tuning of the pianos? Are most/ all pianos this way? > Even the baby grand I have is like this. > > Thanks > Judy > ----------------------------------------------------------- This occurs most frequently in very short pianos--whether they be grand or vertical--and typically toward the lower tenor section, but I've encounter it some relatively large instruments as well. It occurs most often in pianos using plates that are drilled to either a drilling pattern or to plate dimples. First the problem with short pianos-- For a variety of reasons most designers of short pianos use rather high string angles toward the low tenor. This flare is centered around the hammer strike line where adequate unison spacing must be maintained to provide hammer and action clearance. This means that the strings will diverge toward the foot, or bottom, of the piano and converge toward the front, or top, of the piano. For reasons that have never been adequately explained all of this flare typically takes place through just the tenor section with the strings through the treble section(s) running roughly parallel to each other. At least the center strings of each unison are usually more-or-less parallel to the center string of the adjacent unison through the treble section(s). There is nearly always at least some string divergence within the unison itself--the two outside strings angle away from the center string somewhat. And in the bi-chord string section the unison center is actually an imaginary line between the two string which themselves are diverging toward the foot (or bottom) of the piano. This means that all of the strings are converging toward themselves somewhere in front of (or above) the piano. All of this makes the side-to-side spacing of the tuning pins very tight, especially as they get squeezed together--fore-and-aft (in the grand) and up-and-down (in the vertical)--toward the low end of the tenor section. In some exceptionally tight scales strings will often touch each other no matter how carefully the tuning pin field is laid out.. Next, the problem of erratic plate drilling-- Piano plates made before the advent of numerically controlled drilling machinery (whether that control be by paper tape or by computer program--i.e., CNC machining) were drilled either to a hardened steel pattern or to dimples cast in the plate surface. In both cases there was considerable room for error. If the tuning pin drilling is off even slightly strings will rub together. Even if the tuning pin field was once carefully laid out, pattern and template maintenance over the years allowed errors to creep in. In some cases these errors have been perpetuated through the transition to CNC machining. There are at least a couple of plates in current production that are now drilled on CNC equipment using x,y coordinates taken from existing drilled plates. The new plates coming off of these machines still exhibit exactly the same drilling mistakes that were present in those existing plates, the out-of-place drilling coordinates having been faithfully ported over to the computer based controller. If you're interested, there's some discussion of action center spacing problems in my PTJ articles on small vertical piano design, The Problem of Small Pianos, Part I--July, 1997 and Part II--April, 1998. Perhaps the more important question is: "Does it really matter?" Unless the strings are actually binding to the extent that it adversely affects you ability to tune the piano, no. On the other hand, it does look sloppy and with careful design it can nearly always be avoided except in the tightest of scales. Even manufacturers of very high-end pianos allowed themselves to become a little sloppy over the years and simply let this stuff happen. I remember a "Piano Quality Comparison Chart" that was circulated by a Yamaha dealer in the mid- to late- 70s that had pictures of this in a Steinway grand and comparing it with a comparably-sized Yamaha grand. It made a dramatic, if mis-leading, point. Del
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