S&S tuning pins...

[antares]

Hello Friend Brekne and Del,

You two asked me for an explanation in regard to my former statements?

I must disappoint you, I can not give a scientific reason. On the other
hand, I did not say why tuning pins bushings  influence the tone, I just
said they do.

That I can explain :

My first encounter with this was may years ago during my very first visit at
the Steinway factory in Hamburg.
I asked why STW did not have tuning pins bushings and they told me that it
gave another tone..I did not understand it but just took swallowed that
explanation.
Then many years later in 1998 I did the Yamaha Concert grand course and 'my
instrument' was a prototype without bushings and it did sound much better.
the tone was more clear and open.
Since then all CFIIS grand have tuning pins without bushings and the do
sound better.

It probably has to do with energy not being killed by this 'collar around
the neck'

friendly greetings
from

Antares,

Amsterdam, Holland

"where music is, no harm can be"

> From: Richard Brekne <rbrekne@operamail.com>
> Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:42:15 +0200
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: S&S tuning pins...
> 
> 22.08.2001 18:47:25, antares <antares@EURONET.NL> wrote:
> 
>> Tuning pin bushings influence the tone, that is why Yamaha some years ago
>> finally decided to not use tuning pin bushings anymore on their
>> flagship..the CFIIIS.
>> 
>> friendly greetings
>> from
>> 
>> Antares,
>> 
> 
> Anters Mio !!... :) Ok now you put your foot in it. This puts me back on the
> snuffs of this circle of sound thing I have heard a few times, and up to now
> its been 
> presented in such a way that it seems simply like something out of the book of
> the Templars or something.  However, there is often as not some element of
> truth in even 
> the strangest of legends they say.... so to the point.... just how do tuning
> pin bushings influence the tone of an instrument, and to what degree do they
> do so. And while 
> you are at it.. how does this influence on tone work into the discussion about
> open face vs closed face pin blocks ?
> 
> btw... good to "see" you again !
> 
> Richard Brekne
> 
>