Thank's Dale, you confirmed my thoughts. Now to make the decision with the customer. See ya in a few days. Roger At 11:53 AM 7/8/01 -0700, you wrote: > Hey Rodger > > Having installed just about every body's Stwy parts and ,many of some, >frustration has led me to use about a dozen sets so far of the new improved >factory made wippens. I have had to do considerable amounts of traveling on >some sets( an hour or more) but the trade off is that it is a virtual >replication of the older style wippen.(pre- 1984 I think) It seems to have >similar spring sizes so adjusting tension is good ,not a great struggle. The >weight is in the 18 to 19 gram range which is as light as the old original >ones. Yes! The new ones are also made of maple(yeah). If you will install >one side by side to an old one and regulate that note the reg button ends >up about the same place as does the drop screw( not to low/high ). The >capstan is I think ever so slightly higher. This ,as far as I've been able >to determine ,is due to the wippen body height being slightly (ever so >slightly) shorter. Any net result of this would be better acceleration.( o >to 60 in whatever) > By the way the factory provided Renner wippen is also a great part, >matches the new improved (would use them in a second and have) .It has the >angled wippen heel and one peice body and no separate glued on heel too. >The springs are a bit different but fine. The weight as on all Renner >wippens is in the 20 to 21.5 gram range which can be a consideration( more >weight in the system) Unfortunately you can not buy that particular Renner >wippen from Renner U.S.A.which is a huge disappointment to me. The cost of >factory parts is higher but the frustration of trying to regulate parts that >don't really match is WAY worse to me. I've tried ( Been there done that.) > > I am very pleased with the results of the wippens but have not used the >shanks as the Renner parts ( to me) from Renner U.s.a. or the factory >supplied runners are so consistent,reliable and geometrically sound. So I'm >using a combination of parts and 80% of the time it is the 16 mm >(Renner)knuckle placement. The actions weigh off well and feel very much >like the old actions when they were right. > >Hope that helps-see you in Reno > > Dale Erwin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:37 AM >Subject: New and improved Steinway parts. > > >> Any feed back on the new and improved steinway parts would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> regards Roger >> >> >
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