Thine Hallow Pitche

[David Skolnik]

His original message said "hear" instead of "heat". He is very conscientious.

David S


At 01:01 PM 03/03/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Joe,
>
>Were you replying to your own message?  Were you replying to me or 
>Kristen?  I don't understand "Sorry HEAT"...
>
>David I.
>
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>On 3/2/01 at 7:38 PM Joe & Penny Goss wrote:
>
> >Sorry HEAT
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi David,
> >> Violins or any string instrument will have no problem but that is not the
> >> case for the woodwinds and brass. I would have to get another tuba to
> >play
> >> at A444 as the instrument plays at A442when the tuning slide  is all the
> >way
> >> in and the horn warmed up.
> >> Also the orchestra bells are a set tuning and change with the HEAT only a
> >> little. I always wondered why they sounded out of tune <G> perhaps they
> >are
> >> tuned for Europ at A442.
> >> Joe Goss
> >> imatunr@primenet.com
> >> http://www.primenet.com/~imatunr/
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
> >> To: "pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:17 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Thine Hallow Pitche
> >>
> >>
> >> > With my symphony customers who are playing at 442 in the concert hall,
> >442
> >> seems very appropriate for their home...;-]
> >> > If these same customers wanted 440 one time and 442 the next I would
> >> suspect you would have a problem...
> >> > Any change of 8 cents is going mean some instability.  That means going
> >> through the piano twice and more $ from the customer.  If it needs to
> >come
> >> back down it will need tuning twice and more $ again.  Our symphony here
> >in
> >> San Francisco tunes to A442, mainly because of the former concert
> >master's
> >> insistance...I believe.  Question:  wouldn't it be a pain for other
> >> instrumentalists to switch between 440 and 442?  Don't violins have to be
> >> set up for the different pitches?
> >> >
> >> > I think most tuners would have no problem with A442 if everyone would
> >> stick to it.  But then we would have musician "purists" insisting upon
> >the
> >> old standard of A440 and remarking about how much better it sounds there.
> >> >
> >> > David I.
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > On 3/1/01 at 6:24 PM Kristinn Leifsson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >O.K.  Carol wrote about the pitch thing.
> >> > >
> >> > >We normally tune to A440, but the symphony tunes to A442  We don´t
> >take
> >> > >them as far as A444 (unless perhaps when stock tuning new pianos). I
> >> heard
> >> > >A444, is concert standard in Austria and the Czech Rep., but that´s
> >> > >another
> >> > >matter.
> >> > >I have customers that play in the Iceland Symphony Orchestra and I
> >don´t
> >> > >hesitate to bring a piano up to 442, as long as the strings etc. are
> >> > >healthy.  In fact, any time I tune a piano I ask whether there are
> >other
> >> > >instruments going to be used with it.
> >> > >
> >> > >I have NEVER had a problem resulting from tuning an instrument to
> >A442.
> >> > >There has never been a broken string at a concert I have tuned for.
> >> > >
> >> > >So what´s the deal with the holy pitch?  Are there many tuners out
> >there
> >> > >that will absolutely NOT bring a piano above A440,
> >> > >and will -quote- "sooner quit their jobs than do it" -unquote- (hi
> >> > >Carol).  I´m not talking about whether to charge more etc.  just the
> >> > >principle of the thing.  I know this has been covered many times
> >before,
> >> > >but please.
> >> > >
> >> > >Carol knows that I think it´s ridiculous, if the instrument is
> >healthy.
> >> > ><g>  What do other people think?  And what about other Europeans?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Kristinn "Psychotuner" Leifsson
> >> > >Reykjavík, Iceland
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>