Hi, Clyde: << Granted, some cultures use only the five-tone pentatonic scale, while others, using microtones, go beyond our familiar system. But I've wondered if there is something "natural" about the twelve tones as most of us perceive them, or about the diatonic scales, all the variances of tuning differences notwithstanding. >> (In reference to Ed Foote's cross-post of Margo Schulter's piece on the history of the development of twelve tones in the octave) That is certainly the case Leonard Bernstein was trying to make in his Harvard Lectures, that there is a kind of meta-tonality and diatonicity which compares to the meta-language characteristic in the human race - and that is an argument from the "soft science" of anthropology, I think. And the Pythagorean/physics basis for harmony is an argument from the "hard" science of physics. Certainly there is no dogmatic theology here, but maybe a rationale for the need of most forms of music to somehow reference - and of the tendency of the listener (and often the composer) of even structural atonality to continue to refer to - traditional ideas of consonance, even if effort is made to distance one's self from that orientation. All of this, of course, seems to happen in historical cycles which provide the garden for the creative impulse. Great post, Ed. Bill Shull, RPT In a message dated 3/8/01 4:26:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, cedel@supernet.com writes:
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