This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Bill and List, Many years ago, I rebuilt a Kimball, 6'?" Grand. It had tuning pin = bushings, which were larger than standard and they were made out of = laminated maple! I duplicated this when I redid the piano. It was a = dream to tune. I might add, I used pin driving fluid, so that the = threads of the t. pins would not "ream" the bushings. At the same time, = another top quality rebuilder, friend of mine, did another Kimball with = the same configuration. He opted to put standard plate bushings in. That = piano was, and still is, a bear to tune! My conclusion, then and now, is = that if the proper material is used for plate bushings, (NOT endgrain, = non-descript wood), they will enhance the t.pin stability in it's axis = and tuneability will be ensured. One thing that should be noted, is that tuning pin bushings change the = lines of force within the frame/plate/pinblock structure. If one is to = draw a side view of a piano structure, (ie plate w/pin block, tuning pin = and string, etc., then draw the lines of force and the pivots therein, = one will find that, with a plate bushing the direct line of force is = directly into the plate and not in the pin block. Without the plate = bushing the direct line of force is directly into the pin block! It must = be assumed that in this example, the tuning pin MUST be tight in the = plate and around the tuning pin. Of course, the standard plate bushing = does not meet this criteria.=20 Just some more food for thought. And yes, Del, I know you don't agree. = Methinks too much brainwashing from your days at Baldwin. [grin] :-) Regards,=20 Joe Garrett, R.P.T. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Billbrpt@AOL.COM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Ditch the tuning pin bushings In a message dated 5/11/01 10:01:52 AM Central Daylight Time, =20 Erwinpiano@email.msn.com (Erwinpiano) writes:=20 My solution was to fully fit the block with a good plate fange = contact=20 and eliminate the bushing. The piano tunes like a dream(Bolduc = block)yeah=20 baby. Enough said?=20 Back in the late 1070's and early 1980's when I was interested in the=20 rebuilding end of the business, many people were putting plate = bushings in=20 Steinways. The word from Steinway at the time (and probably still is) = was=20 exactly the same reasoning that you put forth here, Dale.=20 My only question about that is how far the tuning pin coil ended up = being=20 from the top of the pinblock. In some cases, it seems to me, the lack = of a=20 plate bushing really creates a bad "flagpole" effect. Couldn't a well = fitted=20 pinblock *and* good, hard maple plate bushings make an even better=20 arrangement than simply one or the other?=20 What's your and any others opinion on that, please?=20 Bill Bremmer RPT=20 Madison, Wisconsin=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/63/5d/d9/25/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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