And no comment about the following??? "I think I am going to cut out the plate webbing of every piano I put a block in so that I have an open-faced block and then I will use 1/0 pins." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@KSCABLE.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Tuning pin size? > >The block wear would be the same "if the block's PSI friction load on the > >pin surface was the same in all cases." But presumably one would be > >comparing two pins with equal torque. Equal pin torque with different size > >pins would result in the "block's PSI friction load on the pin surface" and > >the PSI friction load on the block surface to be less on the block with the > >large pins (same total friction value spread out over an infinitesimally > >larger surface contact area). Less PSI friction load on block with larger > >pins would result in a longer lasting block - if pin turning were what wore > >out blocks - which it isn't. > > True, true, true. I did need some point of comparison though to make any > sense at all of it. In practice, because of the surface loading you point > out, it's a lot harder to get uniform torque from larger pins than from > smaller ones (right, Dale?). The margin for error narrows as the pin gets > bigger, or the chosen pinblock gets harder. Some Falconwood users tell me > they use 2/0x2.25 pins exclusively. > > > > >OK, so where did that get us? > > To the weekend! It also stuck a little real world physics to something a > number of folks only know through the handle of their tuning hammer. It may > not be immediately useful, but having some idea of basic physical > interactions can save a lot of random motion when we're troubleshooting > something new to us. At least I hope so. > > Ron N
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