But, Jay, You just don't understand! That's what socialism is all about. Give all your money to the government and then do what they tell you to and they will give part of it back to you. Some that have left this country have forgotten that we have a constitution that forbids the federal government to be responsible for anything but what they have been assigned. (Since when has that stopped them?) Things like education, law enforcement, gun control, environment and many others have been reserved to the states and the people. In their wisdom, the founders realized that states might just become overbearing , out of control etc. , but you could always move to another state more to your liking. However when the federal government gets out of control, where are you going to go? Instead of Norway I'd probably want to go to one of the several areas of the world that people live to be 120-140 years old. Now the only things that those areas have in common is that they are 1000 miles from the nearest doctor or hospital. Hey! They don't have any private health care costs either. Now Richard bewails the fact there is no mechanism to (control alternative care) Thank goodness for that. I assume he thinks there is a mechanism for controlling the (REAL) Doctors. If there is, it's in worse shape than the Lindner pianos we've been talking about. They have basically three treatments. Cut, poison and burn. When was the last time you heard of a Doctor testifying against another Doctor? When an "alternative" N. D. said that Doctors kill (not murder, just incompetence) 300000 people a year, the medical fraternity was furious and did their own study. They found that it was only 150000 that were killed inadvertently, so that proves he was a liar. I hope that makes you feel better. How many piano tuners that you know, would you trust to tune your piano? I mean percentage wise. I've worked with engineers in electronics, mechanics etc. most of my life. I've found that the percentage of them that are honest, competent and creative is damm low. Why should Doctors be any different? You must know that 50 percent of them graduated in the bottom half of their class. That scares the hell out of me and I can't tell them apart. They've had laws passed to prevent me from finding out. By the way I wonder how many of those 150000 people killed by mistakes, overdoses, and other screw ups got a refund on their medical insurance premiums? Doctors can bury their mistakes, but architects can only advise his client to plant vines. I overheard one of our regional VP's tell someone that " I had this great surgeon that told me (If you don't have bypass surgery, you could die anytime). I wanted to tell him. "Don't you realize that his Mercedes payment was due?" There are many alternative procedures that could have been used, but they are so cheap that there is no profit in them and so they are bad mouthed, suppressed and made illegal. The government controlled FDA cooperates to suppress these cheaper alternate procedures. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are a lot of questionable alternative out there. That's where your intelligence comes in. Keep your BS separator turned on. Check out every claim. The info is available. You just have to check it out and make your own decision. Of course, if you don't have any common sense, You oughta go to college. For me, I haven't been hampered by a formal education. When have you heard of research being done on a procedure that is cheaper than what we are already using? Research money only goes to things that are more profitable. I can understand that. Money talks, It just doesn't listen to me, cause I don't have much. Being an old Fart, I do lots of medical reading and research about things that are controversial. I trust my gut feeling about lots of things because I've found my gut to be more accurate than most biased research. All research is done to try to support a preconceived conclusion or to justify a monetary motive. Results that don't conform is rejected, suppressed or lied about. To those who consider me a crack pot (psycho ceramic) please consider the term "informed dissident" as more appropriate. Send me your medical questions. I just might have an opinion that will make you think. Now watch the medical fraternity accuse me of practicing medicine without a license. To that I say " I DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' LICENSE" I'd have more respect for Doctors if their average life span wasn't 58 compared to the couch potato's 75 yrs. Their argument is that they have a lot of stress. Hey, compared to police officers and firemen, the most stress Doctors have is to decide which drug company to invest in and how can I make my yacht payment on time. Time to put this thread to bed. Carl Meyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Mercier" <jaymercier@hotmail.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: health insurance > Just taxed heavily beyond belief? > > Jay Mercier > Glenwood, MN > > > >From: Richard Brekne <rbrekne@broadpark.no> > >Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org > >To: pianotech@ptg.org > >Subject: Re: health insurance > >Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:22:07 +0200 > > > >Grin... Live in Norway. wonderfull public health system ... no privat > >health insurance expenses. > > > >Farrell wrote: > > > > > What do you folks do for health insurance coverage for your families? > > > Assuming you don't have a spouse covered by an employer plan, what other > > > options do you consider? We just learned that health insurance for our > > > family (my self-employed wife, our 12-year-old son and me) will go up to > > > over $600/month. There's gotta be a better way - any ideas? > > > > > > Terry Farrell > > > Piano Tuning & Service > > > Tampa, Florida > > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > >-- > >Richard Brekne > >RPT, N.P.T.F. > >Bergen, Norway > >mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >
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