Pacifism? (OT)

David Love davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:25:13 -0700


Pacifism doesn't mean you don't fight to defend yourself.  Be careful.  Even
Ghandi said the pacifistic thing to do when your life is threatened may be
to kill your foe.  You should also listen to the Bush administrations
position more carefully.  Even they are not talking about "retaliation".
Justice and defense are not the same as retaliation.  A blood war would be a
great mistake.  Let's hope that they stay focused on the difference.

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "John M. Formsma" <jformsma@dixie-net.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: October 02, 2001 2:37 PM
Subject: Pacifism? (OT)


> Hi Folks,
>
> I received this today. Delete if you want.
>
> John M. Formsma
> Blue Mountain, MS
> PTG Associate, Memphis Chapter
>
> mailto:jformsma@dixie-net.com
>
> ****************
>
>
> With all of this talk of impending war, many of us will encounter "Peace
> Activists" who will try and convince us that we must refrain from
> retaliating against the ones who terrorized us all on September 11, 2001.
>
> These activists may be alone or in a gathering.....most of us don't know
> how to react to them.  When you come upon one of these people, or one o
> their rallies, here are the proper rules of etiquette:
>
> 1. Listen politely while this person explains their views. Strike up a
> conversation if necessary and look very interested in their ideas. They
> will tell you how revenge is immoral, and that by attacking the people
> who did this to us, we will only bring on more violence. They will
probably
> use many arguments, ranging from political to religious to humanitarian.
>
> 2. In the middle of their remarks, without any warning, punch them in
> the nose.
>
> 3. When the person gets up off of the ground, they will be very angry
> and they may try to hit you, so be careful.
>
> 4. Very quickly and calmly remind the person that violence only brings
> about more violence and remind them of their stand on this matter. Tell
> them if they are really committed to a non-violent approach to undeserved
> attacks, they will turn the other cheek and negotiate a solution. Tell
them
> they must lead by example if they really believe what they are saying.
>
> 5. Most of them will think for a moment and then agree that you are
> correct.
>
> 6. As soon as they do that, hit them again. Only this time hit them much
> harder. Square in the nose.
>
> 7. Repeat steps 2-5 until the desired results are obtained and the idiot
> realizes how stupid of an argument he/she is making.
>
>
> There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting victim
> or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is unacceptable
> and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost.
>
> We owe our military a huge debt for what they are about to do for us and
> our children. We must support them and our leaders at times like these.
> We have no choice. We either strike back, VERY HARD, or we will keep
> getting hit in the nose.
>



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