I agree with you. PTG has a whole bunch of Homophobes. PTG also has whole bunch of HOMOSEXUALS, and some of them are very high up, and much respected in this organization. Now are we going to have a piano forum or a homofourm. They would both be very interesting, but not on this forum, and at this time. This is a time of national emergency and we all have to be of one mind. I will be glad to discuss any of this Homo stuff privately at wpeterson2@socal.rr.com . Bill Peterson, former PTG member, but greatly interested in pianos. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: Re: "Gay clientele" was RE: Erard Grand Piano > Oh jesus christmas... this is a pianotech forum... and we are having enough > difficulty keeping our minds on the subject as it is, what with the world > getting ready to blow itself up as it were.... We could very well do without > this kind of thing. > > Everyone has a right to their opinions... but this is not only "off topic" ... > is downright waaaaaayyyy out of line for this forum. > > Whatever er.... "perversive" characteristics any given person may or may not > have.... I am sure you have more then enough yourself to deal with, as indeed we > all do. > > The stick in the other guys eye is always easy to see, but the log in your own > is another matter. > > RicB > > "John M. Formsma" wrote: > > > << This particular nightclub catered to gay clientele ( as Jerry Seinfeld > > said "not that there's anything wrong with that!"). >> > > > > In our culture, homosexuality is considered by many an "alternate > > lifestyle." However, until just a few years ago, it was rightly considered a > > deviancy by psychiatrists. Though I come from a Christian background, > > believing that God condemns sodomy, even a look at "natural law" reveals the > > deviancy. 1) There are no "homosexual" animals. 2) Homosexual relations > > produce nothing, while heterosexual relations produce something (as they > > have been designed by God). 3) It revolts against the human anatomy. 4) > > Every nation who approves of and is tolerant of homosexuality has been > > destroyed. The list could go on, but I will not do that here. I would ask, > > though, that you think logically about the mindset of homosexuality > > (hedonism with absolutely no regard for a Creator and his design), its acts > > (completely revolting, and dealing with "waste" areas of the body), and its > > results (emotional as well as physical devastation, such as utter loneliness > > and AIDS). > > > > I am not a "gay-basher," but we as a society desperately need morality, as > > well as logic and reason in this day of moral relativism. There is a > > standard of right and wrong, and we should not be afraid of saying it. > > > > Yes, I work for those who are homosexuals. Yes, they are people and > > deserving of respect as fellow human beings. And, yes, they can be told what > > they do is wrong and has eternal consequences. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John M. Formsma > > Blue Mountain, MS > > PTG Associate, Memphis Chapter > > > > mailto:jformsma@dixie-net.com > > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > Bergen, Norway > mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > > >
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