Robert and Bill B., Having your offsets (below my post) and Bill B.'s insistence that they won't work, I tried a temperament on a Steinway M today. I might not do EBVT correctly, as it seems to be rather elusive, but I have followed his written directions closely for some months and have a good working idea of the temperament as he wrote it. From your offsets, given my understanding of EBVT with the knowledge that Bill B. has not heard or sanctioned my rendition, the temperament did not sound like EBVT. It seemed close, but the tempered 5ths and 4ths were beating too fast. So, I tuned the EBVT F3-F4 octave and got the following offsets. The FAC tuning which was offset had the following numbers: F 8.5; A 8.2; C 9.2. I used the A4 from the FAC tuning, then tuned the rest aurally. Here are the offsets after measuring: F3 -0.3 F#3 -1.8 G3 +0.9 G#3 +1.0 A3 -1.9 A#3 -1.5 B3 -0.9 C4 +1.5 C#4 -1.7 D4 -1.7 D#4 -0.7 E4 -2.8 F4 -0.5 Another way I measured was to turn the SAT II on and measure the notes in the tune mode. I don't know if that will be helpful, but here are the measurements: F3 -1.0 F#3 -3.2 G3 -0.5 G#3 -0.4 A3 -1.0 A#3 -2.0 B3 -3.0 C4 +2.1 C#4 -1.2 D4 -0.3 D#4 -1.2 E4 -2.3 F4 +0.8 F#4 -1.0 G4 +1.9 G#4 +3.0 A4 0.0 Bill B., could you please use these offsets and the other measurements on a Steinway M to see if this is even close? Maybe then we could get closer to having more correct offsets. Thanks, John M. Formsma Blue Mountain, MS PTG Associate, Memphis Chapter mailto:jformsma@dixie-net.com ************** David, I followed Bill's aural EBVT tuning instructions using a software simulation called "Temperament Designer" and came up with the following offsets for Bill's EBVT: A -1.73 A# -0.10 B -1.15 C 3.62 C# -0.75 D 0.08 D# 0.27 E -2.59 F 1.37 F# -3.01 G 2.77 G# 0.76 -Robert Scott Real-Time Specialties
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