---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment In a message dated 10/4/01 2:36:41 PM Central Daylight Time, jformsma@dixie-net.com (John M. Formsma) writes: > Robert and Bill B., > > Having your offsets (below my post) and Bill B.'s insistence that they won't > work, I tried a temperament on a Steinway M today. I might not do EBVT > correctly, as it seems to be rather elusive, but I have followed his written > directions closely for some months and have a good working idea of the > temperament as he wrote it. From your offsets, given my understanding of > EBVT with the knowledge that Bill B. has not heard or sanctioned my > rendition, the temperament did not sound like EBVT. It seemed close, but the > tempered 5ths and 4ths were beating too fast. > > So, I tuned the EBVT F3-F4 octave and got the following offsets. The FAC > tuning which was offset had the following numbers: F 8.5; A 8.2; C 9.2. I > used the A4 from the FAC tuning, then tuned the rest aurally. Here are the > offsets after measuring: > > F3 -0.3 > F#3 -1.8 > G3 +0.9 > G#3 +1.0 > A3 -1.9 > A#3 -1.5 > B3 -0.9 > C4 +1.5 > C#4 -1.7 > D4 -1.7 > D#4 -0.7 > E4 -2.8 > F4 -0.5 > > Another way I measured was to turn the SAT II on and measure the notes in > the tune mode. I don't know if that will be helpful, but here are the > measurements: > > F3 -1.0 > F#3 -3.2 > G3 -0.5 > G#3 -0.4 > A3 -1.0 > A#3 -2.0 > B3 -3.0 > C4 +2.1 > C#4 -1.2 > D4 -0.3 > D#4 -1.2 > E4 -2.3 > F4 +0.8 > F#4 -1.0 > G4 +1.9 > G#4 +3.0 > A4 0.0 > > Bill B., could you please use these offsets and the other measurements on a > Steinway M to see if this is even close? Maybe then we could get closer to > having more correct offsets. > John, A cursory look at your figures says to me that you are correct in every sense. Perhaps your figures can be compared to Ron Koval's who I think may have also come up with figures that work better. I still don't see the value in using the FAC program however, because it will never produce the same kind of octave arrangement that I do. Your recent description of how you visualize octaves works well with my method. The FAC program is nothing more than a guess which does not even attempt to make the same kind of compromise. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/3b/16/af/6d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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