H! Z!, CA will work even tho pin tightener has been used. Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Z! Reinhardt" <diskladame@provide.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: pin tightner > Hi Don! > > Thanks for your insights about this matter. It could hardly have come at a > better time -- just today I met an upright piano whose pinblock had been > doped (Pin-Tite) over the summer by another technician and there are still > plenty of pins that are not holding. > > Now I'm wondering ... will oversized pins (I have some Larudee Lo-Torque > pins, sometimes known as fat-bottom pins) help with the pinblock already > treated, or should I go straight for the CA and hope that I won't be > breaking overly tight pins when I try to tune it? > > Z! Reinhardt RPT > Ann Arbor MI > diskladame@provide.net > > P S - Rode the train to/from Reno from Detroit and had a great time. > Already have my train ticket to Boston for the Holidays. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don" <drose@dlcwest.com> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: pin tightner > > > Hi, > > In regards to adding CA to already "traditionally" treated blocks. Use > LESS. The CA works even better when the block is already full of ethylene > glycol. Pins can become so tight they will shear off. If you have over done > it, tap the pin(s) with a hammer to "break" the initial glue bond. > > P.S. ridden any trains lately diskladame? > > At 05:48 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > >+ My understanding is that you can use a syringe to apply the stuff. > >However, the stuff never dries. Eventually it loads up with ambient dust > >and turns into a black goo. + > > > >If the pinblock were the only problem, I might steer > >towards CA glue, > > > >+ Why not use CA glue in this case? ... + > > > > >thanks > > >I've come to many pianos where pin tightner had been used, a hefty > >percentage of which still had tuning pins too loose to tune. Now what -- > >about the only remedy to this is to replace the pinblock. There is no way > >to flush the tighning solution out of there. (Applying CA glue over > >tightner would make a lovely mess indeed, most likely incapable of > improving > >tuning pin torque.) > > > > >Whatever stuff you use ... PLEASE remove the action and cover the keybed. > >I'll leave it to your imagination what may happen should any of these > >substances hit the action in strategic places. > > > >Z! Reinhardt RPT > >Ann Arbor MI > >diskladame@provide.net > > > Regards, > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. > > mailto:drose@dlcwest.com > > > > http://donrose.xoasis.com/ > > 3004 Grant Rd. > REGINA, SK > S4S 5G7 > 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >
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