That's kinda sad isn't it. The ads I have seen for the Verituner must have been produced my some marketing company that excels at selling perfume - or Steinways. The ad creates a mood. I guess it is supposed to get us all hot and bothered so that we go out and buy one. I suspect most of us are a bit more pragmatic than that and would like some choice excerpts from the technical manual so that we can see exactly what this thing does. I would rather get sweaty between the ears, that elsewhere! (At least as far as piano tools go.) Enough of that! Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: <larudee@pacbell.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: very simple (VT100 report) Isaac, That is just about the best VT review I have seen to date. It answered just about all the questions I had. Too bad its PR mode is so primitive. I hope they address that in future versions. I also wish they would present it the way you and others on this list have. They offer only the barest description. Paul Larudee Isaac OLEG SIMANOT wrote: > Hello, > > Even if the manual propose to tune from A4 up , then from A4 down, I've > never used that way and the VT100 always computed a good tuning. > In fact I tune my usual temperament sequence, but before that I play > (sample) all A's, the 2 break notes, the last plain and first wounded, so > the VT have more information to begin with . This method too is in the VT > 100 manual. > In fact at every new note you play (and tune), the VT learns information > about the spectra and uses it to compute the tuning. > > On the fly you can add stretch at the extremes or when you feel the need, > buy going in the menu add stretch and add a value from -2 to +2. > > The VT display at all times (in fine tune mode) all the partials sounding, > with their pitch and level, written at the left of the screen, while the > actual pitch of the note is displayed too near the spinner. > The spinner is driven by all the partials, those witch are stronger have a > stronger effect on it. > It can be customized in speed, so is the speed of the external display, and > the minimum rightness for it to appears. - possible to ask the spinner to be > driven by one partial only. > > You can even tune by direct reading, as I understand your question, that > mean tuning intervals directly, based on partial coincidences. Then you can > have the spinner driven by any partial of your choice, then see what the > other are saying, and even change on the fly the partial driver. > > The custom mode allows for pattern realization with more or less beats at > different levels in the standards intervals ratios (octaves, doubles and > triples), starting at any note and computed by weighting the strength of the > ratio vs. the others. i.e. you can ask for a 60% 8:1 octave at 0.6 bps while > having a 40 % 2:1 at + 0.65 bps since any note in the scale. I did not > compute enough with that yet but that allows for much possibilities. > > The PR mode is not so evolved as in RCT, but you have a display with > original pitch, final pitch with 10,25 or 33% added, and wanted final pitch > which is the Zero point on this linear display. > > The VT can hear inharmonicy while you are tuning the string (the pitch is > moving), so he reads the piano while you pitch raise. > > Things can be better in tuning management, and the software for downloading > on a PC is on the way. > Beside, the quality of the results are more than excellent, and the use > while tuning is very natural to me (I mean the display is always something > my ears can agree with) > > Historical temperaments are included, measurement of tunings too, the > spectrum analysis in real time is very impressive, it is fast and precise, > used it in voicing, like a toy, but true facts there. > > I hope this tool will make his way and have the success it deserves. > > Hope nobody is hurt, that was not my intention either. > > With kind regards. > > Isaac OLEG > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part > > de Joe & Penny Goss > > Envoyé : dimanche 28 octobre 2001 01:40 > > À : pianotech@ptg.org > > Objet : Re: very simple > > > > > > Leo, > > The Verituner recommends tuning A1 through 6 and both strings at the bass > > tenor break and then tuning the first pass starting point is now > > recommended A 3 to the top and G# to the bottom. > > All through this first pass the tuner is munching away on the numbers so > > that on the second pass the tuner is really packed with the best > > information > > for that instrument. The user can adjust to their preference the type of > > stretch but so far the "average" gets it there for me. I do not like the > > "clean" at all but thats just me! Havent tried the other style stretch as > > yet. > > Please don't SHOUT I still have a SATlll or SATll for sale <G> > > someone might > > hear you. > > Joe Goss > > imatunr@srvinet.com > > www.mothergoosetools.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <LHSBAND440@AOL.COM> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:13 PM > > Subject: very simple > > > > > > > SAT - LISTENS TO 3 NOTES AND SETS THE ENTIRE TEMPERAMENT > > > > > > RCT - MEASURES SEVERAL A'S AND SETS THE ENTIRE TEMPERAMENT > > > > > > VERITUNE - LISTENS TO 88 NOTES AND ADJUSTS THE TEMPERAMENT > > WITH EACH NOTE > > > > > > LEO SILVERMAN > > > >
This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC