1 string, 2 strings, 3 strings or more

Richard Brekne rbrekne@broadpark.no
Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:31:48 +0200


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Delwin D Fandrich wrote:

>
>
> Sounds like you're describing the S&S pianos I prepped back in the
> 1970s and 1980s. Or current Kawai and Yamaha pinblock to plate flange
> fitting. While I have limited personal experience with Petrof pianos,
> quite a few of my acquaintances have quite a lot and they relate
> little of what you describe in the pianos they service. Who am I to
> believe? (In fairness to S&S, their build quality has improved quite a
> bit since then though most of the design issues remain.)
>
>
> Not having much experience with NY Steinways of that period, I will
> simply have to take your word on that, Tho I have lots of Hamburgs
> laying around from that time and none of those show even the remotest
> sign of these kinds of problems. Kawai's we dont see a lot of here,
> butYamahas are aplenty everywhere you go... but that plate flange
> fitting gets into this tuning pin bushing story. Cant say I have run
> into a Yamaha that needed a new block yet so I havent had the
> opportunity to really check this out. When I do, I think I might have
> a go at leaving out the bushings... just out of curiosity... I know I
> know... magic circle....still it might be fun to try out.
>
>
>     > I still maintain that a well designed inexpensive piano
>     > can/will outperform a poorly designed expensive one. It's
>     > just that there is a dearth of well designed pianos
>     > available in any price range. (At least by 2001 design
>     > standards. There are quite a few well designed pianos by
>     > 1901 standards.)
>     >
>      I dont recall anyone mentioning a problem with piano
>      >>design<<  issues.  But ok.. have it your way. I still
>      maintain that a poorly built piano, regardless of how well
>      designed it is, will remain a poorly built piano and as such
>      will not outperform much of anything.
>
> Yes, it will remain a poorly built piano but it might well outperform
> those S&S pianos you're so fond of. At least initially. But this does
> bring up another point of performance, and one that is deliberately
> hidden (usually) from the original buyer. And that is one of
> longevity.
>
> One reason I've consistently recommended that folks buy pianos like
> the S&S, even though I'm fully aware of their faults, is that in fifty
> or a hundred years our ancestors will be able to rebuild/remanufacture
> them and they will keep on going, serving the musical needs of yet
> future generations.
>
> I consider this to be a part of the overall performance package. And
> it is one reason why I do not endorse some pianos that many on this
> list regard as great and wonderful instruments. They are going to be
> virtually impossible to rebuild/remanufacture when the time comes. Or
> their value will be so low as to make that option financially
> unattractive.
>
> I have a growing contempt for disposable pianos, modern or old, cheap
> vertical or concert grand. The earth does not, and cannot have given
> today's population, the resources to continue satisfying society's
> desire for cheap, disposable products whether they be pianos or
> widgets.
>
> Grin... outside of this tendancy you have of insisting on putting
> words into my mouth... I find myself happily in complete aggreement
> with the remainder of this posting.  I am especially in aggreement and
> pleased to see you make the point about longevity. I was going to get
> into this myself on the spinoff thread you have about Prambergers, but
> I have not run into a Pramy YC yet. But my experience with previous YC
> and Samicks has been that they up and die really early. I've seen many
> as 10 to 15 years old that just dont have any "Klang" left... I mean
> nothing at all... just a weird sort of thudish sound.
>
> I am also not particular pleased with the throw away mentality. And
> for similiar reasons to your own.
>
> Del
> Delwin D Fandrich
> Piano Designer & Builder
> Hoquiam, Washington  USA
> E.mail:  pianobuilders@olynet.com
> Web Site:  www.pianobuilders.com
>

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Richard Brekne
RPT, N.P.T.F.
Bergen, Norway
mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no


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