Foundry Castings

gordon stelter lclgcnp@yahoo.com
Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:52:58 -0700 (PDT)


Not just cast iron, but #50 cast iron is specified in
the AS&W transcriptions. These guys were no dopes!
They made some pretty astounding pianos around 1900,
as I'm sure you will admit. Strike steel and it rings.
Strike cast iron and it goes "thud". Specific
resonances COULD be a problem on long members. You
could also talk to Bill Edgerton of (I think) Norwalk
Ct.. ( Also in Music Box Soiciety International ) He
made a bunch of reproduction Seeburg KT Special
Orchestrions in the 1970's with aluminum plates.
Perhaps you could ask him how that went. 
--- Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> >Just why do we think gray iron is the best of all
> possible materials to 
> >use for piano plates anyway? What is it about gray
> iron that is so special?
> 
> I think we don't think it's better so much as we
> just don't think about it 
> at all. So much of piano design is momentum of
> entrenched "standards" that 
> there's no reason I can see to think plates would be
> immune from the 
> attitude. I'm thinking that gray cast iron was the
> coin of the realm at the 
> time plates were first being put into pianos. At
> that time, you couldn't 
> throw a hat out of a window without hitting
> something made of cast iron. It 
> was about as common then as plastic is now - well,
> almost. There were more 
> than a few foundries around that were equipped to
> cast something like a 
> piano plate, it was cheap, there were lots of
> experienced pattern makers, 
> and it was a relatively quick and easy way to make a
> frame that would 
> handle the tonnage of the new higher tension scales.
> What else did they 
> have at the time that was more cost effective and
> would still do the job? I 
> think cast iron was the first thing they reached
> for, and it worked well 
> enough to satisfy them.
> 
> I think these mantras of rigidity and non resonance
> are just 
> rationalizations that developed later as
> justification for doing it like it 
> was always done and not exploring other
> alternatives. I'm OK, you're OK. 
> Don't improve - decorate. Once these mantras are
> encoded into the gene 
> pool, they become TRUTHS, whether they're defensibly
> logical or not. Who 
> wants the responsibility for questioning these
> truths? They'd have to 
> overcome a lot of static weight (belief) to make any
> headway. Easier to 
> just go along.
> 
> Ron N
> 


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