This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Interesting ... REALLY wish you'd left out your signature tag line-you = know, as in "drop it." Alan Barnard Oil on the Waters from Salem, MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: SidewaysWell1713@aol.com=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Octaves Testimonial List, I got this testimonial this morning from a scientist who had = discovered my webpage. As it says in my website, I've been tuning my = octaves this way for about 20 years. I clearly remember Jim Coleman = rushing up to me after the recital at the Convention in 1993 saying, = "You've done something with the octaves. I don't know what it is but I = like it!". From what Richard Brekne has written recently, I believe he = is on to the same idea. Not everyone gets it though. None of the ETD stretch programs can = tune the octaves this way. There is one individual out there who can't = bear to see his name associated with his own words. According to him, = this way of tuning octaves "doesn't make sense at all". He is actively = trying to disallow me from quoting him by force. I think it would be a = lot easier if he just admitted that he might not know eberything there = is to know. Here is what one visitor to my website had to say this morning: Your web site was an eye-opener or better an ear-opener! I am a scientist, a physicist, play piano for fun, not too good. = However, I started to teach myself to tune the piano since I was 18 (that is = almost 30 years ago!). I did it always by ear but I only tuned my grandmother's upright and our Bluethner grand (which is in Germany). When I came to = the US, I bought an electronic tuner, thought it would speed things up, = since I almost every time had to 're-learn' how to tune and sharpen my ears' perception. Until then, by the way, I checked my tuning always by = scaling up the large 3rds and 6ths. I found this out by myself, probably because = my tuning wasn't that great and I need some other means of testing how = well I did. It can easily happen to mistakenly made the 5th larger instead of smaller, as an example. Then I noticed that pure octaves aren't satisfying at all. Especially = in the lower keys, I liked to spread the octaves, since there were other = harmonics that were prominent in their beats, and the ear didn't mind a slow = rolling octave. And therefore I dispised my electronic tuner. Then I became fascinated by the idea to use the 5th as a pure interval instead of the octave. I just fumbled a bit with this last week. = However, the octaves take a beating, so I thought of maybe a compromise, then I stumbled upon your web site -> the 'ear-opener'!! I thank you so much to put this on the web, I will try your technique! Did you ever think of possible (psychological or whatever) effects of = a pure 5th (Pythagorean) tuning on the listener? It might require the 'right' = music that avoids octaves, so you don't hear their beat too much. How about = the RIGHT pitch, is A 440 what it should be, is there a better = 'fundamental tone' - the right frequency and can it be 'felt'? I am thinking about the human chakra system, there might be more = behind this. I am not sure if you are into this - but since you figured all = this great stuff out I wondered if there was more... With best regards, Stephan Fuelling, Ph.D. Bill Bremmer RPT Inventor of octaves which "don't make sense at all" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/1b/31/06/53/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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