3 gorgeous 1890's Knabe uprights for sale, unrestored.

David Andersen bigda@gte.net
Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:18:30 -0700


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>> >And I thoroughly disagree with the concept that pianos deteriorate because
>> >of lack of service, and won't if they are adequately serviced. They will
>> >deteriorate at the rate, and in the manner dictated by their materials,
>> >design, construction, and yes, climate.
>> >
>> >But that's just my opinion.
>> >
>> >Ron N
>>
>>Hey, Ron----
>>your oppositionality and mild crankiness can get tiring after a while.
>
>Hey David,
>That didn't sound very Zen. What happened to "every head a planet", and the 
>great cosmic tolerance?
Are you a perfect curmudgeon?  I think not. 
Am I a perfect Zen warrior, letting nothing ever irritate me?  Nope.

But I did get over it by the end of the post, and my wishes were sincere 
and collegial.
Is "go fish" insulting or collegial, a spoof or a kiss-off?  I couldn't 
tell.
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>
>>---pianos made in 1890 by quality manufacturers were generally made
>>better with better material than the same piano today.
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>Maybe, or not, but so what? 
Uhhh....whatever you say. Or not.

>That's neither maintenance, nor lack thereof.
Your point being?
>
>
>>---Define "deterioration." If a piano is not regularly serviced for a
>>decade or so, and is used often, it will sound and feel bad; parts will
>>wear funny; the hammers will be destroyed--- detoriated, in my opinion.
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>If a piano is regularly serviced for a decade or so, and is played often, 
>it will still wear - funny or otherwise. Service won't keep strings in a 
>heavily used piano from work hardening and breaking. It won't keep 
>soundboards from negative crowning. It won't keep hammers, knuckles, and 
>key bushings from wearing out. It won't keep bridge pins from getting loose 
>and producing false beats, or cracking. It won't keep bearing positive in 
>the killer octave. It won't keep pinblocks from delaminating, or verdigris 
>from seizing up the action centers.

Correct.  And if the piano is maintained and parts are replaced as 
needed, then its "deterioration" will be abated and, if parts replacement 
goes deep enough, reversed. An exact definition of deterioration seems to 
be the hot button here.
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>>Play an adequately maintained German Steinway from the last 50 years with
>>a good board; then talk to me about 1890's Knabe upright comparisons.
>>Please.
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>You will note that I never did talk to you about 1890 Knabe upright 
>comparisons.
No, but you supported someone else's extolling of them, thereby giving 
your tacit approval of his position.
> To find out what I did say, read what I wrote, that you 
>included as a reference in your reply, and I included again so you could 
>check what you replied to against what I wrote in the first place to search 
>for any remote connection between the two - should the urge belatedly come 
>upon you.
How arch----and nearly unintelligible.
I've read what you wrote, and what your writing replied to.  My post 
stands.
I have no real bone to pick with you; I admire your knowledge, but I 
sometimes question your presentation. Praise and kindness can go a long 
way. Surprise us once in a while.


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>
>>Grrrr.
>>
>>Venting over.  Happiest of holidays, Mr. Nossaman.
>>
>>David Andersen
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>
>Go fish, Mister Anderson.
Spell my name right, punk.      
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>Sincerely,
>
>Ron N

David A

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