Loose Pins

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Hi Carl,
Cut the tip at a slant so that the surface of the tip can rest against the
wood of the tuning pin bushing. Two things are now possible. You can stop
the flow of the CA by pressing against the wood and the glue container can
be held at a slant allowing more of the glue to be dispenced.
If you go straight in only two thirds of the CA will come out easily.
The CA will wick into the wood from above the pin, just go slow!
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Teplitski" <koko99@mb.sympatico.ca>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Loose Pins


> Interested in your explanation for applying ca to loose pin without
> laying piano on its back. What was meant by cutting a hole in tip,
> if in fact that is what was said? I'm imagining drilling a hole alongside
> pin, in order to make a channel for ca to travel in.  Obviously, having
> piano on its back to take advantage of gravity would be better, but for
> just a few pins, your method seems to make good sense. Could you please
> elaborate on type of cut you mean.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Joe And Penny Goss wrote:
>
> > Hi Tommy,
> > For just a few pins (presume that they have already been taped in) I
would
> > not lay the piano on its back.
> > You can treat the loose pins by cutting a very small hole in the tip at
a
> > 45% and place the tip directly on the wood of the bushing then
> > slooooooooooowly squeeze just as much as the wood will take without
running.
> > You should also work a rag under the strings where the CA might run
down.
> > If the glue does run stop and quickly remove the rag before it becomes a
> > part of the piano.
> > If the piano has been previously treated with CA it helps to raise and
lower
> > the pitch before treating the pin.This will open up a path for the glue
to
> > enter the pin hole.
> > I have several pianos that have held very well for 6 years and tune
almost
> > as tight as a new piano. I also do not use the kicker but let the glue
set
> > up on its own.
> > It usually tales about 10 minutes for the glue to set up enough to hold
then
> > it really cures and the next time you tune the pin that you have treated
you
> > will mostlikely need to break the pin loose by lowering the pitch first.
> > Afterwards it will tune very nicely. This is not recommended for other
than
> > the type piano that you are working on and still at best a fix not a
repair.
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Bigeartb@AOL.COM>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:30 PM
> > Subject: Loose Pins
> >
> > > List:
> > > Thinking of  treating a few loose pins in an old console with CA Glue.
> > Never
> > > done this before. Lay piano on back? Apply drops of glue around tuning
> > pin?
> > > How many drops? How long before I know it worked? Don't lay piano on
back?
> > Do
> > > we know how long this fix will last?
> > >      Finally, rebuilding old action on el cheep-oh grand piano.
Replacing
> > > hammer shanks and flanges....kunckles larger than original....when
> > properly
> > > regulated what effect will this have on the feel of the instrument?
> > >       Other than this everything seems O.K.  As the song says I
> > need...Just A
> > > Little Help From My Friends.
> > >
> > > Tommy Black
> > > Decatur, Ala.
>