Loose Pins

[James Baker]

Just to clarify (Spelling Police, heads up), they are referring to cutting
the glue bottle tip.  Not anything on the piano.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Loose Pins


> Hi Carl,
> Cut the tip at a slant so that the surface of the tip can rest against the
> wood of the tuning pin bushing. Two things are now possible. You can stop
> the flow of the CA by pressing against the wood and the glue container can
> be held at a slant allowing more of the glue to be dispenced.
> If you go straight in only two thirds of the CA will come out easily.
> The CA will wick into the wood from above the pin, just go slow!
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Teplitski" <koko99@mb.sympatico.ca>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Loose Pins
>
>
> > Interested in your explanation for applying ca to loose pin without
> > laying piano on its back. What was meant by cutting a hole in tip,
> > if in fact that is what was said? I'm imagining drilling a hole
alongside
> > pin, in order to make a channel for ca to travel in.  Obviously, having
> > piano on its back to take advantage of gravity would be better, but for
> > just a few pins, your method seems to make good sense. Could you please
> > elaborate on type of cut you mean.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > Joe And Penny Goss wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Tommy,
> > > For just a few pins (presume that they have already been taped in) I
> would
> > > not lay the piano on its back.
> > > You can treat the loose pins by cutting a very small hole in the tip
at
> a
> > > 45% and place the tip directly on the wood of the bushing then
> > > slooooooooooowly squeeze just as much as the wood will take without
> running.
> > > You should also work a rag under the strings where the CA might run
> down.
> > > If the glue does run stop and quickly remove the rag before it becomes
a
> > > part of the piano.
> > > If the piano has been previously treated with CA it helps to raise and
> lower
> > > the pitch before treating the pin.This will open up a path for the
glue
> to
> > > enter the pin hole.
> > > I have several pianos that have held very well for 6 years and tune
> almost
> > > as tight as a new piano. I also do not use the kicker but let the glue
> set
> > > up on its own.
> > > It usually tales about 10 minutes for the glue to set up enough to
hold
> then
> > > it really cures and the next time you tune the pin that you have
treated
> you
> > > will mostlikely need to break the pin loose by lowering the pitch
first.
> > > Afterwards it will tune very nicely. This is not recommended for other
> than
> > > the type piano that you are working on and still at best a fix not a
> repair.
> > > Joe Goss
> > > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Bigeartb@AOL.COM>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:30 PM
> > > Subject: Loose Pins
> > >
> > > > List:
> > > > Thinking of  treating a few loose pins in an old console with CA
Glue.
> > > Never
> > > > done this before. Lay piano on back? Apply drops of glue around
tuning
> > > pin?
> > > > How many drops? How long before I know it worked? Don't lay piano on
> back?
> > > Do
> > > > we know how long this fix will last?
> > > >      Finally, rebuilding old action on el cheep-oh grand piano.
> Replacing
> > > > hammer shanks and flanges....kunckles larger than original....when
> > > properly
> > > > regulated what effect will this have on the feel of the instrument?
> > > >       Other than this everything seems O.K.  As the song says I
> > > need...Just A
> > > > Little Help From My Friends.
> > > >
> > > > Tommy Black
> > > > Decatur, Ala.
> >
>