David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation

David Love davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 07:28:24 -0800


Isaac:

Of course you're right about that.  Renner's Hamburg Steinway hammer and
Boesendorfer hammer, for example, are two hammers I put on periodically for
those instruments and they are considerably harder.  This is where having a
clamp to hold a section of hammers for prevoicing really helps.  But the
Renner Blue is still much harder than the NY Steinway style hammer which I
prefer for older American pianos such as Baldwin, Mason Hamlin, Chickering,
Knabe.  There are times, however, when a tensioned hammer is appropriate and
I have used the Renner Blue on many occasions.  I'm still looking for
something in between a Steinway and a Renner Blue.  Perhaps that's
impossible given the differing styles of hammer making.  I've heard sets of
Isaac hammers that I've liked, but consistency from set to set has varied a
bit too much in the past from my limited experience with them.    But,
though I like the NY Steinway hammer, I wish they could pull the felt a
little tighter from G5 to the top.

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "Isaac OLEG SIMANOT" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: February 16, 2002 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation


> Hi David,
>
> From an European point of view the Renner Blue is on the soft side, yes,
but
> the actual 'tensioned' hammers we have are not very hard, not much more
> unless you ask for.
>
> Isaac
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part
> > de David Love
> > Envoyé : jeudi 14 février 2002 03:50
> > À : pianotech@ptg.org
> > Objet : Re: David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation
> >
> >
> > Joe:
> >
> > I agree that I don't prefer this type of hammer, in all honesty I prefer
> > Steinway style hammers when I can.  But there are times when a tensioned
> > hammer is more appropriate for the instrument.  The way they are a fair
> > amount of softening the shoulders is necessary to give some
> > resilience, so I
> > inject my elbows with pain killers and plow ahead.  Believe it or not, I
> > believe the Renner people think that the Renner Blue is a softer hammer.
> >
> > David Love
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: February 13, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation
> >
> >
> > > David and all,
> > > If I had to do that much "pre-voicing" or even "voicing" to a set of
> > > hammers, I wouldn't by a second set!!! We all need to start being more
> > > "picky" and complain more to the hammer makers to get them to
> > quit making
> > > what I call "baby ball peen hammers"!!!!! Just my thought on
> > the subject.
> > > Having said that, if we are dealing with a particular piano with their
> > > "Factory" installed BBs, then that's another matter. In that case, if
we
> > ALL
> > > would talk to the company service rep., everytime we encounter this
> > problem,
> > > then maybe, just maybe, they might reconsider making a potentially
great
> > > sounding piano sound like the sounds of a destruction derby, everytime
> > it's
> > > played. Especially after the piano has been played for a few years.
Feed
> > > back from us is the only thing that will make a difference, but
> > we need to
> > > be vocal about it. I did that with the M&H rep and they now offer
> > different
> > > hammers of different densities. Finally, someone really is paying
> > attention
> > > and cares. My hat is off to M&H, on this account!
> > > Regards,
> > > Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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