tuning <> TUNING

[Farrell]

I think he is asking about overall tuning stability. I think he is suggesting that moving many of the notes 10 to 20 cents different will cause a general instability of the tuning and the tuning will not stay where you put it for very long.

I think that is what Oleg is writing. No?

Terry Farrell
  
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> Greetings, 
> Oleg writes,  and I contend with:
>  
> >When tuned in  HT, or even alternate quasi ET, the instability will not
> >be hear because it is very few musicians only that can check for example the
> >color of a tuning and say if they agree with it (I've experimented that
> >in tuning 2 instruments in reg meantone for a small ensemble for 12 days)
> 
>    Wow,  if you are experimenting with Meantone and only a few musicians 
> notice, I wonder about the ears of these musicians!!  Maybe I am reading the 
> post wrong, but a musician that doesn't distinguish between ET and Meantone 
> is not listening very closely at all, and would be easy to please. 
> 
>  >When the people will accept an alternate temperament, they will accept
> >that their piano will be less in tune in fact than with ET.
> 
>    I don't understand.  Are you meaning to say that ET is more "in tune" than 
> the alternatives?  If so, then we have to define "in tune" by something other 
> than the amount of consonance available, since ET has virtually no physical 
> consonance at all.  
> 
> in another post, Oleg writes: 
> 
> >The A's where may be the same if you did not move them more than 0.3 cts,
> >but , sorry , I don't believe that you can move so much from meantone to ET
> >on a candidate for re stringing and have any stability one way or another.
> 
>    Well, in the Meantone tuning,  I moved the 
> Bb= + 17 cents
> B   = - 7 cents
> C = + 10.3
> C# = - 13.7
> D  = +3.5
> Eb = +20.5
> E = -3.4 
> F = +13.7
> F# = -10.3
> G = +6.8
> G# -17.1
> A  = 0 
> 
> This totals about 70 cents up and 54 cents down for a total of 16 cents 
> difference spread over 6 of the notes.  That equates to about 2 cents per 
> note,with the A staying the same.  It isn't hard to see that there was a .3 
> cent change in the piano, is it?  
>    The changes in pitch raises occur from the flex of the soundboard and 
> plate. When there are some notes going up, and others going down,  there is 
> an equalization process.  At least, this is why I thought there was so little 
> change.  
> Regards, 
> ED Foote 
>