At 10:03 AM -0700 5/12/02, David Love wrote: >When stringing a piano with oversize pins. What method do people >use to prepare the old block. I've >been reaming with the gun >cleaning stiff bristled brushes, but I wonder if there isn't a >better and more >consistent way to get to fresh wood. That's the best that I can do, to slough the dead wood off the tuning pin hole walls with a gun bore brush. What with far more turning in the middle sections, and the bass undergoing far more prying forces due to the thicker plate web, I wouldn't expect to find consistent wear on the tuning pins holes, across the block. On a block needing oversized pins, it frequently takes a 4/0 pin in the middle to feel identical to an original 2/0 up in the top treble of the block. So it would take 10 mils of stock removal to equalize the pin torque between these two holes. And that's not answering the question of how that 10 mils should be tapered down from the loose pin hole in the middle to the tight one in the treble. So consider adding 5 mils to the stock removal and increasing the pin size to 5/0. So you've got the entire set of holes re-bored (hopefully) at .296". Given that the original difference between bore and pin diameter might be anywhere from .031" to ".020" (a .281" pin in a hole bored at either .250' or .261"), what size pin would be needed for this re-bored hole, .265" or .276"? Remember, you just pulled a .281" pin out of there which was a loose enough fit to require some sort of repair, suggesting that the hole size might not be more than a few mils down from .281". Re-boring to get fresh wood is another matter entirely. Were we supposed to do this with a hand drill? The one person I knew who did this successfully was going .250" into marine plywood. The tolerances in re-boring are far more critical. So much so to require re-boring with a drill press. Unless the pinblock can just be lifted out of the rim, it will require an "on-the-piano" drill press. Several good ones have been described recently: one in the Journal within the last year, and Terry Farrell's overhead version. Oversized pins in the original block always contains an unknowable risk: how is the pin size going to feel immediately after stringing, and five years hence. I'd judge the block by how good or 3/0 placed in a weak spot feels. The lousier it feels, the greater the inconsistency you're going to ask the procedure (brushing/boring) to overcome. Maybe Epoxy reinforcement is a viable technique here, but even the one paper I've read on it (from Epoxy Technology, the report of an antique piano conservator) described it as plugging the tuning pins holes and then re-boring (for 4/0 pins when replacing 2/0s). Bill Ballard RPT NH Chapter, P.T.G. "There are fifty ways to screw up on this job. If you can think of twenty of them, you're a genius......and you aint no genius" ...........Mickey Rourke to William Hurt, in "Body Heat", discussing arson. +++++++++++++++++++++
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