Hazen, Why are you bringing this up now? How did Antares' post show up? Was it addressed to the list? I found Antares' post in my personal box yesterday, and because it had escaped the filter which puts PTx posts in my PTx box, i assumed it was directed to me personally. (Same initials, BB.) Then after you responded to it, I noticed that yesterdays' appearance did not have the usual PTx "Sender" stamp, that it had been sent apparently directly by Antares, and that it was identical to one which he had sent posted to the list. Its "To: " field did not list "pianotech@ptg.org", rather "undisclosed recipients", which would imply that I had received it not as a PTx subscriber but as one in a smaller subset there of. His original 9/15 post was in my PTx mailbox. Lord knows what (I'm not going to say who) initiated that second transmission of the three-week old post. I'm sure that Antares is completely innocent of this. But we've already seen that somebody on the Pacific Rim had no difficulty broadcasting their commercial solicitations (firehoses, indeed!) using the PTx subscriber list and its address, but avoiding its server, in such a way that Andy was completely unaware of this. I'm sure that Andy's server had as little to do with this as did Antares. Such spurious server behavior doesn't need to feed Bill Bremmer's sense of persecution. But as members of this email community, we need to be aware that this kind of spookiness does happen. Bill Ballard RPT NH Chapter, P.T.G. "People sitting at computer screens slap their foreheads and pound keyboards frantically. A technical support representative wearing a telephone headset calmly asks, 'Have you tried re-formatting your hard drive?' " ...........from "The Trade Show Talk that Wasn't" by Stephen Manes, NYTimes 11/18/97 +++++++++++++++++++++
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