a different interpretation of tone or color

[Isaac OLEG]

Hello and Happy Birthday, Richard !

I believe the 10mm rule (or conclusion) mean that this dip is the most
comfortable as a generality.

May be some very large handed pianists could (if they where aware of)
ask for a keyboard regulation at a different dip/level, but I like the
logic to work with a comfortable dip, and regulate the remaining of
the action to concur.

I've never seen a pianist checking the dip, always they check the
aftertouch to see if it please them, most educated then know they can
ask for a little aftertouch change in a little time.

I regulated a S&S b last week, that had Abel heads on it. The heads
where too tall, and the tails too long.
Working with 10 mm was not an applicable solution (while I tried at
first), as I obtained too much aftertouch, with the long tails the
touch became very bad.

But I hade it working at 9.85mm , shanks almost on the cushions, and
that was the less bad I could obtain.

If regulated at 9.5 (factory spec) , not enough sound, and an action
that lack responsiveness.

Old Schimmel grand's where intended for 10.25 or 10.5, Kaway are said
for 10.25, but if you change the soft punching for better (more firm)
ones, you can regulate to 10 mm dip, and you recognize immediately
that you have the correct touch on these strange actions.

Anyway again I discover how much time is lost in regulation when
incorrect parts have been fitted.

Regards.

Have a nice Sunday

Isaac OLEG




> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
> part de Richard Brekne
> Envoye : samedi 19 octobre 2002 01:35
> A : Pianotech
> Objet : Re: a different interpretation of tone or color
>
>
>
> Hmmm..
>
> We go back and forth and back and forth on this one.... but
> it seems to me
> clear that the writing is on the wall, and Rons post
> probably sums it up as
> well as any. I think ear tuning is essential, and that its
> inevitable demise
> will be the downfall of us all..... ok so I am a bit
> doomsdayish... :) others
> think whatever they think... but in the end I think we are
> all witness to an
> ongoing process that will leave the decisions to the puter,
> and the pinsetting
> to the hand.... and after that... well the hand will be
> replaced too.
>
> As I've said before... we might as well all start playing
> "L" pianos... because
> thats the waltz we willingly are learning to dance.... for
> better or worse :)
>
> Cheers !.... ?
>
> RicB
>
> ok... so I am 50 and a bit soused after a little birthday
> party... I am sure
> you will all forgive as is your esteemed want :)
>
>
>
> Ron Nossaman wrote:
>
> > >This concept has always bothered me.....
> >
> > I normally try to stay out of tuning (re-)discussions,
> but this has
> > recently bothered me more and more as well.
> >
> > It's been my experience, and is my conviction, that good
> solid hammer
> > technique - with the result of getting a string to stay
> where you put it
> > for more than a few seconds, takes far longer for most
> newbies to learn
> > than "tuning" -  visual and/or aural.
> >
> > So I don't particularly see the need for half a lifetime
> of aural tuning as
> > being a necessary or even desirable prerequisite to
> taking up an ETD except
> > that someone with half a lifetime of aural tuning
> experience should by now
> > have a pretty good idea how to run a tuning hammer, where
> the newbie with
> > either a fork or a box most likely does not. Half a
> lifetime tuning with a
> > slide whistle is almost certainly better
> pre-qualification for switching to
> > a modern ETD than the same amount of time in the tool
> crib at Boeing. And
> > yes, I agree that the newbie with the box will on average
> turn out better
> > tunings than the newbie with the fork.
> >
> > That's it, I'm done.
> >
> > Ron N
> >
>
> --
> Richard Brekne
> RPT, N.P.T.F.
> UiB, Bergen, Norway
> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
> http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
>