Hey, that's only a matter of feeling, coupled with accuracy and a first class tone building ! Never it can be measurable (how could it be ?). When you begin to tune for tone and not for pitch life is easier. Regards. Isaac OLEG > -----Message d'origine----- > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la > part de Richard Moody > Envoyé : jeudi 24 octobre 2002 07:52 > À : Pianotech > Objet : Re: ears vs. eyes..kinda long-winded > > > "I think I can tune a piano so that it sounds measurably better > than any > straight machine tuning---even Jim Coleman's" > > I too have never tuned a whole piano with an ETD for pay. I do > out of curiosity experiment with them when ever I get the chance > and put myself against them if asked. However I prefer setting > A440 with a particular "pocket tuner", but also get kicks setting > A4 from the beats of C4 gotten from a standard C fork and > "freezing" the machine reading of A4. > Lucky try I guess, but then who worries about A being closer > than half a beat per second at concert time? I have had musicians > tell me that pianos can go off one cycle per second from a cold > house to intermission. How do they know?.... they use pocket > tuners. So, yes, a $200 expense to acquire the musicians pitch > source is no biggie considering the business I was getting from > those situations. > So if that eliminates me from the "pure aural tuner" category, > sorry but it was a "business first" consideration. If though I can > demonstrate nailing A440 from a fork to redeem myself then I would > gladly do so. > > To reply to David Andersen below, I don't know that I could > demonstrate an aural tuning "measurably better" than Jim Coleman's > machine tuning. Having spent 3 or 4 afternoons at Jim's home with > his SAT and SnS L, I would like to see someone "beat" one of Jim's > machine tunings on that L. > Now the machine tuning might be a recording onto the SAT of > Jim's aural tuning assisted by that SAT. But to Dave Andersen if > you want to visit Jim to prove your point, that you can > demonstrate a better tuning on his piano than Jim can with his > machine, I want to be there. Because if you do you will be the > star (with a fat contract) in a video called, "Aural tuner beats > SAT III" > ---ric (the "i" stands for the "i" in 'let the excuses begin') > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Andersen <bigda@gte.net> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>; <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:33 PM > Subject: RE: ears vs. eyes..kinda long-winded > > > > >Shouldn't there be somewhere a "living museum" tuner, who > > >never used the ETD, and therefore never was changed by > > >its particular biases and requirements? > > > > > >And I volunteer! > > > > > >Susan > > > > I volunteer as well, and I guess it's time to step up to the > plate: I > > think I can tune a piano so that it sounds measurably better > than any > > straight machine tuning---even Jim Coleman's, or Rich > Davenport's, or > > anyone else. I'd love to have a chance to prove that to some of > you > > lovely folks. > > {David} > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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