I HAVE AS MUCH REVERENCE FOR THE FOUNDING FATHERS AS ANYONE!

[gordon stelter]

Thank You David!
     Gordon Lee Stelter

--- David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Though I am trying to keep out of these types of
> discussions, I feel
> compelled to comment.  I took Gordon's comments as a
> criticism of the
> current administration with respect to the
> intentions of the founding
> fathers.  I caught his sarcasm and, in fact, agree
> with him in this respect.
> The founding fathers were smart enough to recognize
> that war was serious,
> dirty, expensive business, wrought with many
> unforeseen perils that
> historically has brought down many of the great
> nations.  They, therefore,
> wanted to make it particularly difficult to go to
> war and wrote into the
> articles that a formal declaration of war by the
> congress would be required.
> This was in part to insure that some individual with
> a personal or misguided
> motive for embarking on such a program might be
> brought under the checks and
> balances that make this system so great.  The
> current administration seems
> bent on not only acting unilaterally, in defiance of
> world opinion, but
> without the approval of congress in the form of a
> formal declaration of war.
> If Iraq represents a clear and present danger--the
> proof of which has not
> been found by the inspectors, nor been provided by
> the administration, then
> Congress should be approached by the President for a
> formal declaration of
> war as our founding fathers intended (and as Gordon,
> I believe, was arguing,
> in effect).  Unless that happens, then I don't
> support the administration's
> attempt to act without such approval and, in my
> opinion, neither should
> anyone else.
> 
> David Love
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tune4u@earthlink.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: January 18, 2003 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: I HAVE AS MUCH REVERENCE FOR THE
> FOUNDING FATHERS AS ANYONE!
> 
> 
> Unless you count elections as polls, nobody EVER
> took a "poll of 350,000
> souls." The Gallup and Time/Warner/Clinton polls,
> etc., typically poll about
> 1,000 people, tops. If the sample is chosen
> correctly, it is a great enough
> sample size, called "N," to ensure statistical
> significance. Where do you
> get this stuff, anyway? Oh, yeah. Kook-sites on the
> Internet.
> 
> Whatever happened to that movie Hollywood was going
> to make about your
> incredibly weird life?
> 
> >From now on, Gordon, you are persona incog-delete-o
> for me. I support my
> country, you trash it. End of it.
> 
> Sorry to prolong it, list, but the Thumpster is, if
> nothing else, an expert
> button pusher!
> 
> Alan
> Salem, MO
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:31 PM
> Subject: I HAVE AS MUCH REVERENCE FOR THE FOUNDING
> FATHERS AS ANYONE!
> 
> 
> > Thank you, and that was SARCASM in my post!!!
> >      I have IMMENSE respect for the founding
> fathers,
> > shed tears at Monticello and Washington's tomb,
> rowed
> > the whole Erie canal at 15, and am utterly,
> completely
> > dismayed by what America has become!!! I also
> believe
> > that the Founding Fathers currently AGREE with me,
> > from their current abode and, YES, my ancestors
> fought
> > that war, having been here since 1628!!!!!!!!!!!
> >      And I have very little doubt that, were the
> > Constitution written today, our CURRENT "Mad King
> > George" - who has backed us out of numerous
> > International treaties yet wants to assault any
> other
> > nations which try the same - would dismiss the
> > Constitution as liberal tripe ( If he could
> understand
> > it!!! )
> >      I, like MOST PEOPLE ON EARTH consider him a
> VERY
> > DANGEREOUS CREATURE! A recent international poll
> of
> > 350,000 souls PROVES that FAR more are worried
> about
> > BUSH than Saddam!  And  ALL 17 of our Intelligence
> > agencies ( in a report requested by Phil Gramm,
> > Republican, Texas ) recommend AGAINST invading
> Iraq,
> > saying that Saddam will attack NO-ONE unless
> attacked
> > first! Yet BUSH persists, although they said such
> an
> > invasion would unleash terrorism upon us with
> untold
> > civilian casualties! ( To which the Bush
> > administration said, in effect: "That's just how
> it
> > goes..."  HE'S THE PRESIDENT! HE'S SUPPOOSED TO
> > PROTECT AMERICANS:  NOT PUT THEM AT RISK!!!!!!
> >      Think about it!
> >      Thump
> >
> > --- Erwinspiano@aol.com wrote:
> > > In a message dated 1/18/2003 8:03:59 PM Pacific
> > > Standard Time,
> > > Erwinspiano@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > > > Subj: off list-private was news flash
> > > >  Date: 1/18/2003 8:03:59 PM Pacific Standard
> Time
> > > >  From: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A>
> > > >  Reply-to: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
> > > >  To: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
> > > >  Sent from the Internet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 1/18/2003 7:08:51 PM
> Pacific
> > > Standard Time,
> > > > lclgcnp@yahoo.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > >> Subj: Re: NEW FLASH [OT]
> > > >> Date: 1/18/2003 7:08:51 PM Pacific Standard
> Time
> > > >> From: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">lclgcnp@yahoo.com</A>
> > > >> Reply-to: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
> > > >> To: <A
> > >
> >
>
HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
> > > >> Sent from the Internet
> > > >>
> > >
> > >        Thump and List
> > > >
> > > >     I aplogize for screwing up what was
> supposed
> > > to be a private post
> > > >     Sicerely
> > >
> > >         Dale Erwin
> > >
> > > >    Thump
> > > > >>
> > > >> I Really OBJECT To your statement of total
> > > disrespect of our founding
> > > >> fathers as they were probably some of
> your/mine
> > > relatives who paid for the
> > > >> freedoms we now enjoy with their blood and
> > > familles fortunes.
> > > >
> > > > .>>
> 
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